Author Topic: Do you believe... (Read 71014 times)

jesusfreak06 · « **Reply #200 on:** August 26, 2004, 12:54:29 PM »

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Quote from: CK9,Aug 25 2004, 09:46 AM
Regarding the Puritans:

They have NOTHING to do with christianity (even though they thought they did).

Just the way they acted toward others (if the others practiced a different religion, they would force them to leave or convert to their religion. If the others refused to either, they would kill them).

Most importantly they believed in "predestination" (that you were randomly chosen to go to heaven or hell) and there was nothing they could do to change that. That's totally against Christianity.
Sounds like catholics. j/k. I didn't mean it. and about polotics, i hate polotics. I hate it when people lie and say bad stuff about their opponents just to win. I am a republican. I would vote for Bush b/c i like what he's doing in the nation. I also won't let myself be deffered by Kerry who has no plan of government but is complaining that Bush over does it. I'd rather keep terrorists back than give them the perfect oppertunity to win. I see what u mean, we did change topics easily. But u know, this is all about one another's beliefs and how we put ourselves into groups to be around other people that believe in what you believe in. That's why there are so many different denominations of Christians.

Betaray · « **Reply #201 on:** August 26, 2004, 09:44:57 PM »

yea, Bush is doing a good job, and I have proof

THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY MORE TERRAREST ATTACKS ON THE U.S.!!

but I mean, it would be better if people achelly reshurced the canadates and pickd out for themselves who would be better instead of voteing for someone just because they are republican or democrat

CK9 · « **Reply #202 on:** August 27, 2004, 12:39:54 AM »

beta, there also weren't that many to begin with -_-

anyway, anyone want to getto te topic?

jesusfreak06 · « **Reply #203 on:** August 27, 2004, 10:06:47 AM »

yes, please lets stick to the topic. So, back to religious and scientific indiferences. Since every time i try to use science to prove my point and Z just proves me wrong, i'll go back to saying: no matter what everyone else believes, the only thing that matters is what YOU believe. too many times do i find people hearing things but not researching. I LOVE it when Z proves me wrong b/c it shows me that he is basing his facts on just that... facts and not something he was told or heard about (my article that i posted here a while ago). I believe in Christ (obviously) and i love to talk about Him (do you know a real Christian that doesn't).

plymoth45 · « **Reply #204 on:** August 27, 2004, 05:29:09 PM »

Garrettsgirl, i do not know a christian that doesn't like to talk about him, i suppose that is why I enjoy these arguments on Bus trips with the mormons. Challenges me, even though it sometimes gets frustrating when they use that stuff against me.

ZeusBD · « **Reply #205 on:** August 27, 2004, 11:39:31 PM »

I love getting into religious debates with people, shoot I love debates all around. Of course science is going to prove relgion wrong...God wants us to believe in him through faith, not facts. So all the facts seem to point away from religion and then only the true believer's are Christian's. Think about it, for a true faith, a true belief, you would need it without proof. So to test us he probably made all the proof point the other way. God has a plan and what happens is always his doing.

I've heard before that people hate God or stop believing because they lost someone at a young age and they don't know why God would take them away..but it is because he gave us CHOICE. That person chose to go out at that exact time if it was a car crash. They could have left 1 minute earlier or later and would've been fine, the person they crash into made the choice to leave when they did. They may not have chosen to kill the other person, but they chose when to go out. The only way God could prevent the death would be to change the way things naturally happened, thus taking away our complete choice, he would have to make us leave earlier or later.

Ultimately it is always choice that kills us. If the people of September 11th had chosen not to come to work, they would've lived. The terrorists made the choice to run the plane into the building, God could've stopped it, but he would have taken away their right of choice. So don't ever blame God for what happened, but instead believe that the person that died is in a better place now.

jesusfreak06 · « **Reply #206 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:12:40 AM »

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I love getting into religious debates with people, shoot I love debates all around. Of course science is going to prove relgion wrong...God wants us to believe in him through faith, not facts. So all the facts seem to point away from religion and then only the true believer's are Christian's. Think about it, for a true faith, a true belief, you would need it without proof. So to test us he probably made all the proof point the other way. God has a plan and what happens is always his doing.

I've heard before that people hate God or stop believing because they lost someone at a young age and they don't know why God would take them away..but it is because he gave us CHOICE. That person chose to go out at that exact time if it was a car crash. They could have left 1 minute earlier or later and would've been fine, the person they crash into made the choice to leave when they did. They may not have chosen to kill the other person, but they chose when to go out. The only way God could prevent the death would be to change the way things naturally happened, thus taking away our complete choice, he would have to make us leave earlier or later.

Ultimately it is always choice that kills us. If the people of September 11th had chosen not to come to work, they would've lived. The terrorists made the choice to run the plane into the building, God could've stopped it, but he would have taken away their right of choice. So don't ever blame God for what happened, but instead believe that the person that died is in a better place now.

i don't agree. i believe that if you were to die that day, fate occurd and you were in that car crash that you were meant to die that day. i do love debates too. i could become a lawyer. lol

Betaray · « **Reply #207 on:** September 01, 2004, 09:25:34 PM »

my dad is a lawyer, and for that reason I normally try to stay out of arguments

plus I dont want to get my ass beat lol

CK9 · « **Reply #208 on:** September 01, 2004, 09:56:22 PM »

beta, in a debate, you'd probably get it handed to you

Betaray · « **Reply #209 on:** September 08, 2004, 03:21:39 PM »

achelly last year, in english class, our last big project was a debate, and my topic was space

noone wanted to debate against me, so the teacher did, and I chewed the crap out of him lol

CK9 · « **Reply #210 on:** September 08, 2004, 05:20:00 PM »

lol, let's debate something some time

Betaray · « **Reply #211 on:** September 09, 2004, 06:00:22 PM »

ok, I'll start

I claim that we have 11 toes

why?

BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!

LOL

Zircon · « **Reply #212 on:** September 10, 2004, 04:33:19 AM »

The eleventh toe is almighty invisible and created the universe, it has no matter and can thus not be proven or disproven.
*dresses in giant toe suit*

Our enemy is athlete's foot (fungus), anyone with a second toe longer then the big toe cannot marry and they should be decapitated...

If you do not pray and keep your feet clean you WILL be thrown into hell...

Now bow before the toe and "save" those that have used the evil fungus to produce "penicillin" the drug of the devil.

Testimonial:

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One day in May, I was walking the yard and I overheard two men talking about some preacher. The one man said that he would come to visit anyone. I used a few choice words, and told the man that he was a liar, and that I would prove that he is like all the rest of the preachers. All the while I was in the church, no preacher cared about me, except the false love shown to me by the priest of the cult. I had cuss words flowing out of my mouth like water as usual. He gave me the preacher's address, and I wrote him a letter.

Two days later, I was called out on a visit. When I got to the visiting room, I looked for my parents, but all I saw was a very short man. I asked the officer where my visit was. He pointed at the short man, so I approached him. He introduced himself, and asked if I would like to go to the visiting yard. I answered him with a mouth of blue flames. We went out and sat by a table facing each other. For the first time in my life, I was facing a man who had no fear of me, nor could I intimidate him with my talk. He took his glasses off, laid them on the table, and said, "You are wasting the good air that the toe has given you." That made me mad and I wanted to tear his head off right then. He asked me to listen to him for a few minutes, and then I could talk. Something shut my mouth; I could not open it.

I listened to him for an hour telling me how much the toe loved me, and why He smelled for me. Tears came to my eyes, and I could not hold them back. I could feel my heart breaking and a want for this loving toe. After the preacher finished, I laid my life on the line, and told him everything. He smiled at me and asked me if I would like to become a child of the eleventh toe. In addition, would I want to have a life of joy? That day of May in 1990, I gave my life to the toe. The cussing stopped right then and there, and to this day, I don't cuss or use substitute words. I had never felt such PEACE!

Follow up: After his revelation he ended up falling down an open sewage drain carrying only a big sign saying "Repent! The end is nigh!"
He now leads the "sewage rat" cult...

Any similarities with the real world are merely coincidences.

CK9 · « **Reply #213 on:** September 10, 2004, 08:23:13 AM »

lol, Z, I think everyone's second toe is longer than their big toe

Zircon · « **Reply #214 on:** September 10, 2004, 10:16:35 AM »

Perhaps, but it can be fixed *brings out army of mini guillotines*

Cut your second toe off or you will suffer damnation, remember he loves you

Your choice

alice · « **Reply #215 on:** September 10, 2004, 10:25:51 AM »

lol. that's 100%. lol. Garrettsgirl's first 3 toes are the same size.

CK9 · « **Reply #216 on:** September 10, 2004, 05:42:57 PM »

lol, Z, I will crush them!

plymoth45 · « **Reply #217 on:** September 10, 2004, 06:47:11 PM »

Jesus loves you, Satan hates you, thats all there is to it.

Kiith Somtaaw · « **Reply #218 on:** September 10, 2004, 07:04:05 PM »

No, I don't think so

:lol:

plymoth45 · « **Reply #219 on:** September 10, 2004, 09:12:47 PM »

You would be surprised, Jesus loved you before you were born, Satan Hates you and wants to make you suffer.

Kiith Somtaaw · « **Reply #220 on:** September 10, 2004, 09:33:58 PM »

Nah.

I do not believe.
It's a bunch of baloney!

Made up by people who are afraid of dying.

I am not afraid of death, I only wish my death is an honorable one.
Dying in battle against my enemy.

(never going to happen) Damn politics.

plymoth45 · « **Reply #221 on:** September 10, 2004, 11:27:18 PM »

Kiith, i am not affraid to die.

You can believe what oyu believe, i'll just keep going on what i believe.

Zircon · « **Reply #222 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:59:27 AM »

Repent before it is to late and join the eleventh toe, throw away your false gods and embrace the truth. I can give you further testimonials and each and every single one of them are living proof that the eleventh toe exists.

Ask yourself, are you willing to spend your life living a lie and then to die suffering eternal damnation then to take the chance and live in toe heaven?

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If there was a way to physically manifest sarcasm this world would be just one big ocean...
Which i might add is what the toe has predicted will happen during the second coming of the toe. Judgement day will mean a glorius slaughter of all the non believers by the all-loving toe and then he will lift all the believers into the heavens where they will enjoy toe goodness...

To quote someone "I have a simple question....CAN ANYONE PROVE THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST?

If not than there is no more proof back any of your statements than there is backing mine." just that god in this case is the eleventh toe...

Although at great lengths i think i have gotten my point across quite nicely

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[Serious talk]

Death and the reaction with people can often be cut into four groups.
(take notice to the "often" i am in no way trying to categorise all people)
1: Those that mistakedly think about it once in a while but literally pushes the thought away.
2: Those that think about it but utilises religion to alleviate their worries.
3: Those that think about it alot and get caught in a loop that often leads to a depression or worse.
4: Those that think a lot about it and embrace it for what it is and come to terms with it. (Embrace in this case does not mean suicide or what you may be thinking of)

CK9 · « **Reply #223 on:** September 11, 2004, 11:03:47 AM »

4

death is just the final step in life

Kiith Somtaaw · « **Reply #224 on:** September 11, 2004, 12:55:46 PM »

There is no emotion; there is peace.

There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.

There is no passion; there is serenity.

There is no death; there is the Force.

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