Do you believe...

[BlackBox]

actually hacker, in my tiredness, I neglected to bring the whole story back up in my mind.  In the brain there are special repair cells, and there are Macrophages.  There are stems of organic material that tend to breack down a little, and the repair cells (forget their name) rebuild some of the genetic code if it is missing.  If too much is missing, the ammount it doesn't rebuild gets thrown away (which is what I was thinking of last night).

I think you are referring to DNA polymerase... its an enzyme that is inside every human cell, it replicates and repairs DNA.

But why not, if "god" existed he would be forced to be passive and not interact or kill his creation. As such humanity is free to eventually step above the boundaries of death.

It's impossible to defeat a supernatural being (this would include things like demons etc, you need the help of God to defeat them)

BTW... humans are confined to a lot of things. we are confined to space, time, and laws of physics.
supernatural beings don't have any of this limitation.

In regards to God killing people, he can and he did (popular reference: cities of Sodom and Gomorrah where he turned people into blocks of salt).

Nowadays he doesn't just cause people to turn into blocks of salt but he controls what happens and allows certain good / bad things to happen.

He may not kill someone directly, but he could cause someone to kill them.

In order for a race to rise above its creator, it needs to be equal to the creator. We aren't equal to God. so it's not possible for this to happen.

You will understand what I meant when you die (seeing where you may end up).

[CK9]

yes! finally I remember some fragments that were missing!  Thanks Hacker


Zues,  I did grow up worshiping God until I was 10 (and old enough to start using my brain for something more useful than games), I chose to no longer be under the dictation of a figurehead.

[plymoth45]

But why not, if "god" existed he would be forced to be passive and not interact or kill his creation. As such humanity is free to eventually step above the boundaries of death.

In typing "god" zircon, you are not reffering to the "God" i believe, as you did not capitolize the g, you are reffering to someone's fake god.

[Zircon]

ah, so now we're talking about demons, and that comes from someone that thought beta's post was sci-fi :wacko:

Besides, the devil is perhaps a really nice ol'chap, i imagine that he's gotten rather tired from torturing people  :rolleyes:

Im going to do something more "real" for the moment capitalised with reality   and saltblocks...

[plymoth45]

*makes a cross outta his fingures* Stay back!

You must know that Satan used to be Lucifer, the evil angel, so God cast him down into hell where he became the Devil, and he will never tire of making people miserable.

[CK9]

It's just so much more fun to be evil sometimes, don't you know that yet plym?

[plymoth45]

ck, i do know that, as you do have an evil side to yourself.

[Betaray]

hay, you can beleave in the past, I'm going to beleave in the future

and I can be as ignorent as you guys, and there is nothing that can disprove it, because it is the future, you cant say that somthing isnt going to happon

[ZeusBD]

*makes a cross outta his fingures* Stay back!

You must know that Satan used to be Lucifer, the evil angel, so God cast him down into hell where he became the Devil, and he will never tire of making people miserable.

God didn't cast down Lucifer because he was "evil." He cast him down because he rose against God and Lucifer rose against God mainly out of jealousy of human's.

In regards to God killing people, he can and he did (popular reference: cities of Sodom and Gomorrah where he turned people into blocks of salt).

God also killed everyone on Earth except Noah, his wife, and he sons during the great flood. The Earth a very bad place and God killed everyone except them. When the water's came back down, they re-populated the Earth.

[CK9]

so it was kinda a reverse of the saying, "rise comes before fal"l?

[plymoth45]

Sometimes that is the case.

Zeus, i did not give a reason why God cast him out of heaven, i just said that he was Evil. Jealousy is Evil. In the commandments we are told not to be jealous of our neighbors. I don't remember the exact wording though.

[CK9]

Isn't it, "Love thy neighbor"?

[plymoth45]

I don't remember if it was that one or a different one.

[CK9]

That's the most commonly known one

[ZeusBD]

Jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins and Love thy neighbor is one of the commandments. Which of the two are you looking for?

[plymoth45]

Zues, i new both, i just can't remember if that was teh commandment I was thinking of or not.

[CK9]

Anyway, If you guys read any of that athiest's essay that Arklon posted, you would know this:

why are there two different sets of 10 commandments listed in the Bible?  

[jesusfreak06]

Anyway, If you guys read any of that athiest's essay that Arklon posted, you would know this:

why are there two different sets of 10 commandments listed in the Bible?

If you are talking about before Christ and after Christ, here's why:  when  God gave us the first set of comandments, it was to guide us so we would know what was right and wrong.  After Christ came we were told the first and upmost important commandment was to "love the Lord with all you heart, soul, strength, and mind" Matt. 22:37.  If you ever get a chance, read John 3 Jesus teaches Nicodemus.   That states that not only must you believe in Christ to escape judgement, but you must also become "born again" which is where you get my denomination name, "born again Christians."  Beta, i don't know where you got that idea (i actually don't wanna either), but Y?  I mean, y would u want to do that to yourself?  

Hey guys, guess what... i turn 16 on wed. the 25th. kool.  Wow, i was gone for like a week and 2 more paged were added.  This is great.

 

[CK9]

I think I'll finish reading my Crichton books first

[plymoth45]

guess what, i'm 15 in 2 days, the 24th YAY! Someone here is not quite 1 year older then me, by 1 day, of course

[Betaray]

let me quote George Carlin, in all his glory

from his book "Napalm and Silly Putty"

"Bulls*** from the sky

But folks, I have to tell you, in the bulls*** department a businessman can't hold a candle to a clergyman.  Because when it comes to bulls***.  Big-time, major-keague bulls***.  You have to stand in awe-in awe!-of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims: religion.  No contest.


Religion-easily-has the Greatest Bulls*** Story Ever Told!  Think about it: religion has actually convinced people-many of them adults-that there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you do, every minute of every day.  And who has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.

And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to remain and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till teh end of time.  But he loves you!

He loves you, and he needs money!  He always needs money.  He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but somehow...he just can't handle money.   Religion takes in billions of dollars, pays no taxes, and somehow always needs a little more.  Now, you talks about a good bulls*** story.  Holy s***!"

I beleave that expresses my views quite accurately as well
 

[CK9]

Only once have I seen the smiley I want to post, but I cannot remember where  

[Betaray]

is that a good thing or a bad thing? (the smily?)

[CK9]

The smiley I want to use is a good thing for some, not for others (it is laughing so hard that it is funny)

[ZeusBD]

let me quote George Carlin, in all his glory

from his book "Napalm and Silly Putty"

"Bulls*** from the sky

But folks, I have to tell you, in the bulls*** department a businessman can't hold a candle to a clergyman.  Because when it comes to bulls***.  Big-time, major-keague bulls***.  You have to stand in awe-in awe!-of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims: religion.  No contest.


Religion-easily-has the Greatest Bulls*** Story Ever Told!  Think about it: religion has actually convinced people-many of them adults-that there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you do, every minute of every day.  And who has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.

And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to remain and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till teh end of time.  But he loves you!

He loves you, and he needs money!  He always needs money.  He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but somehow...he just can't handle money.   Religion takes in billions of dollars, pays no taxes, and somehow always needs a little more.  Now, you talks about a good bulls*** story.  Holy s***!"

I beleave that expresses my views quite accurately as well

You know what Beta...your little story here is the biggest Bulls*** story I've ever read.