New Artwork

[knux]

I am missing some artwork I would like anyone to submit their own.

I need a "Heavy Ore Smelter" and a VTOL vehicle transporter.
 

[Ezekel]

i'm assuming you mean ingame images, right?

[Norsehound]

What do the VTOLs look like?

And any restrictions? And for what sides? both?

[Kiith Somtaaw]

BOOM! AN EDEN VTOL
Click above to see.


This is just a Representation of what a VTOL may look like.
The thing is a VTOL could look like any thing,

As long as it takes off and lands vertically, it's a VTOL, (duh)

[Kramy]

Angelfire does not allow direct image linking.

[Kiith Somtaaw]

*DAMM ANGELFIRE*  :angry:



 

[CK9]

I wonder...

[Norsehound]

ARG!

Pleasepleaseplease do not let this be the VTOL. It looks like it was exported from C&C. I play Outpost 2 to have unique units, not a space clone of C&C.

...Maybe I should post some of the sketches I have lying around. I might as well do something this weekend...

I would launch into a protest of the whole VTOL attack issue, but I've posted that over in the Air units? forum.

[Kiith Somtaaw]

Dude Relax,

It's just an Image of a VTOL,

It might not even get into Knux's Version of OP3


 

[CK9]

"...They call me :mellow: yellow quite right slick..."

[Norsehound]

Hope not.

Ah I'll get my work in eventually.

[knux]

Not a bad pic Kiith.

I'm after a transporter though, not an attack craft.
But could I use that pic in a briefing screen?

Also I am after ingame screens, art for units that will be used in the game.
The VTOL trans can be used for both sides, but I only need a plymouth one for the moment. They need to be about 4-6 times as big as a ground unit.  
 

[Ezekel]

how will it work? function like a garage when landed and a unit in the air?

[knux]

how will it work? function like a garage when landed and a unit in the air?

Exactly. When landed you can dock vehicles into it (though they don't repair) and then it moves like a unit and the vehicles can get out again when it has landed.

[Ezekel]

aha, medium armour i'm guessing.
and it don't count as a structure in terms of negative bonuses to morale for killing it

1000-1150 HP
faster then a scout but slower then um, well any attacking air units.
1 research upgrade for armour increase to medium from an initial value of light?


where will it be built? as a vec factory is nine squares... and well i don't think its production system can handle something so big...

be built on an air-pad i suppose, and it is assembled outside the structure (like a SULV is, only bigger).
and i'm guessing when landed it can be repaired by convecs (something that big and all).
does it have a changing line of sight for when its airborne/grounded? or will it simply have no lights in the air, and a 3 square light range on the ground?





sorry to side track, but knux, you konw you haven't updated your website since september? ... and well it really needs some sorta update... you konw at least a "bear with me, this project IS still alive"

[Zircon]

Question: Can the VTOL land anywhere or does it have to land on lets say, an airbase or big helipad ?

[RedXIII]

VTOLs should be able to land anywhere. That is one of the reasons why they are 'VTOL' in the first place.

[Zircon]

mmm, i guess so. but in for example dune the carryall (VTOL) picks up and drops off units anywhere but cant actually land anywhere and continues to either circle an area or fly out of the map.

If it requires a helipad you cant build an army of vtols that can be used to in turn transport an army.

[RedXIII]

Why Not? If your air defense is crappy enough to the point where it cannot shoot down VTOLs before they can land in your base. You deserve to be invaded in that case.

FYI, VTOLs CAN land anywhere where the terrain is smooth enough.

[Ezekel]

i think it'd be a bit stupid to have the VTOL in mid air, and have vehicles driving out of it... unless they are starflare vehicles... then i suppose it could qualify as a bombing run

um, yeh, sorreh about causing the offtopic ness ... this is a art thread not a VTOL thread

[Zircon]

Well i didn't really mean it like that (imagines a couple of tigers falling through the sky)

The reason i asked was because i cant find a good landing gear solution for my mesh...

[Betaray]

well if it is a air unit, it probly will need fuel, (unless it can manufacture fuel from the air, or it has its cool fusion units powering electric moters that drive propellers)

if it does need fuel, mabe that would be the limatation of the vtol's they can only be in the air for a certon amount of time, or go a certon distance before being forced to land, of corse when they land at air bases they would be refuled

mabe have a series of vetols as tecnoligy progresses, the first ones would be the fusion ones, they would not run out of fuel, but they would be slow, and not be able to transport many units,

than you would have the fuled ones, and mabe you could upgrade them so they can hold more fuel, they would be faster and able to transport more units, t

he third one would be one that would be able to manufacture fuel from the air (such as if the planet has a nitrogen/oxygen based atmosphere ie earth, it would take the N2/O2 mix and make nitros oxide, wich would then be burned to propell the craft)(its a game, it dosnt have to work in real life)

 it would be the biggest, most expencive, and fastest VTOL, and mabe make it be able to carry things into space (because, if it manufactures its own fuel in the atmosphere, it has a very low mass ratio (it carries no propellent other than emergency tanks) and thus there would be no reason why it couldnt go into space)

of corse that would be one heck of a hassle for knux, but I just felt like putting in my 2 cents worth lol

[Ezekel]

anyone see a structure in OP2 called "ESSO garage"?

b-ray, i don't think that the VTOL would need to go somewhere to refuel... if the vehicles have small fusion drive thingys, why can't theVTOL have the same power systems?



also... if this engine of yours needs atmosphere to run... well whats to say that the atmosphere is of the right pressure, and the right composition. furthermore, there is no atmosphere in space, so upon leaving an atmospheric region, the VTOL is dead in the water (so to speak). finally, if this is on more then 1 planet, whats to say that there will even be an atmosphere at all?

[Betaray]

one of the vtols does have a cool fusion engine, its the type 1 vtol, but because it is using electric moters and props, it would be slow and not able to carry as many units as the jet engine ones (the ones that need fuel)

the one I was talking about to manufacture the fuel, for one pressure is not much of a problem, the intakes could have lininer compressors to get the amount of air it needs

for different planets with different atmospheres the people can find different ways to manufacture the fuel than just the N2/O2 example

in space, it would have ion engines and small nitrogen gass thrusters to move in space, those would be very neglagable in weight and thus would allow it to move in space without nessacating the need for a second stage to launch

and if the planet does not have an atmosphere, well than there are no flying units, unless they are rockets, wich in that case would have a very limited supply of fuel, and thus would not be very practicle

[Amrazek]

Might be interesting if the atmosphere/gravity had some kind of effect on the aircraft.  For instance, low gravity might allow for aircraft to fly longer, or a nearly airless world would cause electric-propeller-powered aircraft to be almost useless.  Just a thought