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Offline OP2Patriot

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« on: May 26, 2003, 08:16:58 PM »
I need to explain this first. Once the mission editor is finished, would there be a way to make a campaign game out of First Wave? I'd like the technologies from my novella added to the game, as an expansion pack, and there will be no legal programs. Is there a way?

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2003, 10:45:36 PM »
We have been given permission to hack/edit the game engine. You also wrote the novellas yourself, correct? Then, there is no legal problem guarding you, as long as you don't distribute the original game.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2003, 10:27:20 AM »
Good, I figured as long as I didn't make OP2 available for free, it would be okay.

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2003, 03:08:53 PM »
:rolleyes:

philip, you should already know this, you were part of the 'Hacking team.'
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2004, 02:00:20 AM »
Xfir,

From your post: "We have been given permission to hack/edit the game engine."

From whom?  If they hold the copyrights would they be interested / able to sell them and any of the original game materials?

Just thinking....

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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2004, 09:19:44 AM »
From Dan Duncalf, Outpost 2 lead programmer.

They said we could do whatever so long as we weren't giving the game out for free... (sic)

Offline Kiith Somtaaw

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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2004, 03:21:18 PM »

Amazing,

Did you ask him how to hack it all?

Or how it can be done easily?


 

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2004, 04:08:04 AM »
i believe it was kevin who got that reply from dan ... though i could be wrong
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2004, 05:20:48 PM »
well we are giving the game out for free lol, in the form of the downloadable version
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2004, 09:49:12 PM »
Just pray that Dan doesn't find out.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2004, 07:30:29 AM »
I don't think there's a lot he would/could do because of the following:

1) Dynamix (the developer) went bankrupt.
2) OP2 isn't even produced anymore.
3) Vivendi owns Sierra (the publisher) now and doesn't know a thing about OP2.
4) It's his work, and it's our way of promoting it. Why wouldn't he go for something like that?

Even if it made any difference to him, we'd never get sued or anything because he has no support behind him to sue us anything (financial or otherwise). In other words it wouldn't be worth it to sue over an old game, unless it really mattered to him.

I guess, if we're gonna be labeled as 'warezkids', it's a good price to pay for keeping a great game alive.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2004, 08:02:00 AM »
warezkids, eh? :D
sound good :P
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2004, 10:04:12 PM »
it isnt Dan that would have a problem with us distributing the game the actual owners (Vivendi via Sierra) are the ones that actually matter.  However they completly disowned Outpost long ago when they closed the forums and removed the patches from sierra.com   so if they want to support outpost againg then they can argue    and i doubt they are going to do that.  

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2004, 08:30:31 AM »
They will if they can make money of it...
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2004, 02:49:29 AM »
Wow, I didn't realize that y'all had been given "official" permission to hack the game!  That's fantastic!  I feel better about reading about all the hacking now that I know it's done with permission.  Personally, I'm not a fan of piracy, or whatever people choose to call it.  ...Cool, all those hacking posts make sense now!  I was thinking, "Aren't they afraid someone will find this site and shut them down?" but I guess that's not even an issue.  I hate Vivendi but at least their buy-out of Sierra means they probably won't ever bother the group here.
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