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Offline BlackBox

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« on: April 07, 2004, 01:52:03 PM »
This is a notice to inform everyone on the current situation for OP2 Multiplayer.

We are no longer using the client to play OP2 games, since it doesn't work for most people and few use it, so you can uninstall it.

(To uninstall it, delete these files from the Outpost 2 game directory:
- client.exe
- snwvalid.dll
- comdlg32.ocx
- mscomctl.ocx
- mswinsck.ocx
- richtx32.ocx
- Emoticons\ folder and it's contents)

The standard way to meet to play multiplayer is to visit the OP2 IRC channel.
To get started, go to the Quick Links, just under the IBShout, and download the package (Outpost 2 IRC) to save on your computer. This will get you up and running with IRC. If you can't download, choose the jIRC to access IRC thru a Java program.

If you already have an IRC client installed or want to use a different JavaIRC, here are the settings:
Server = uk.quakenet.org
Channel = #Outpost2

If you can't play due to routers or other stuff, a fix is being made, called OP2Sock. Check in regularly in IRC to find out the progress.
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Offline ZeusBD

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2004, 01:54:12 PM »
Cool, so now I don't have to keep telling people, "Don't click on the one that says OP2 Multiplayer." Thanks for taking it away.
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Offline Kiith Somtaaw

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2004, 02:28:28 PM »
Do you have an ETA?






 
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Offline ZeusBD

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2004, 02:52:26 PM »
I'm almost afraid to ask what an ETA is.....but what is an ETA?
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2004, 03:11:29 PM »
Estimated Time of Arrival...
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Offline ZeusBD

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2004, 03:22:32 PM »
WTF, ETA of what. If I knew what he was talking about then I would've known that it was Estimated Time of Arrival. But him saying that makes absolutly no sense.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2004, 03:42:58 PM »
He's probably refering to this...

"If you can't play due to routers or other stuff, a fix is being made, called OP2Sock. Check in regularly in IRC to find out the progress."
« Last Edit: April 07, 2004, 03:43:27 PM by Zircon »
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Offline TH300

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2004, 04:20:53 PM »
That isn't good news. I don't wanna play op2 games over TCP/IP for ever.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2004, 04:43:15 PM »
Yah, hopefully someone will come up with an internet thing in the near future.
I don't mind playing TCP/IP and entering in the IP's, however, I think a kind of system similar to Starcraft's Battle.net system would be the way to go.
Oh, and I hope op2sock comes out soon, I would like to play. lol.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2004, 04:44:12 PM by Phantom »
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Offline Leviathan

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2004, 07:14:00 PM »
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That isn't good news. I don't wanna play op2 games over TCP/IP for ever.
The Client just plays using Outpost 2's TCP/IP multiplayer by the way. All it does is navigate through Outpost 2's menus to get to TCP/IP Create/Join screens.

This was done with VB and it can done again. Maybe a small VB program can be made which can do this. People would be able to run it along side IRC.
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Offline Kiith Somtaaw

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2004, 07:34:23 PM »
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WTF, ETA of what. If I knew what he was talking about then I would've known that it was Estimated Time of Arrival. But him saying that makes absolutly no sense.
I was refering to the ETA of the OP2Sock at the Forum.
Read the top post.
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Offline BlackBox

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2004, 07:49:00 PM »
Give it a few days... lol.
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Offline Kiith Somtaaw

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2004, 08:19:04 PM »
Mmmmm Progress!

I can't wait.



 
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2004, 12:55:15 AM »
has any 1 thought about useing xfire ? u can join a frineds mutliplayrer game from it :) and it tell u server info to, it jsut reads the reg so if we could ask them add it to the chat prog or import the necesary stuff for op2 we could do it, and then there would be no inserting ip address to join a game :)
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2004, 06:55:24 AM »
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has any 1 thought about useing xfire ?
http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=X...e&body=xf_games

i c no Oupost 2 in the supported list...  
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Offline BlackBox

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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2004, 08:15:17 AM »
And OP2 has no automatic method to input the IP for a game from the commandline.
(Which is how all services like these work, by passing game parameters on the command line.....)
« Last Edit: April 08, 2004, 08:15:48 AM by op2hacker »
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2004, 12:16:09 PM »
hmm... well how did won work then? i think we could get that ot work if it means makeing a patch for op2
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2004, 02:15:47 PM »
It returned game info to OP2 thru DLL calls.

Trust me, I've tried it.
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Offline Kiith Somtaaw

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2004, 10:36:22 AM »
Any update on the OP2Sock?






 
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Offline BlackBox

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2004, 02:09:58 PM »
Getting closer to completion, just need someone to help test my udp tunneling software.
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2004, 10:15:29 PM »
I'll help. What do you need me to do?
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2004, 01:19:47 AM »
I would help, but I have no idea what you are talking about.

Also, it would be good in the future if something like Battle.net could be made for op2. (Or did I say that already?)
But mabey that is just wishful thinking...
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Offline Leviathan

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2004, 02:39:48 AM »
the fact of the matter is we dont need something like Battle.net for OP2.

We just need a place where evey1 and any1 can meet othere people 2 play, we haev this, its called the forum chat room. It is #Outpost2 on QuakeNet. (Download link under shoutbox, OP2 IRC)

A system was like Battle.net for OP2 was made but failed because it had many bugs and it used a lot of computer resources. etc

Please every1 come on the forum chat room while online. More the better, even if ur not playing but ur online, ur part of the comunity and should b there.

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Offline BlackBox

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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2004, 02:33:56 PM »
Yea... we have IRC. making more useless programs is just a waste of time.

Some good things about using IRC vs. stupid battle.net type progs:

1) IRC is used already for other purposes... It's a "universal" chat system... many clans use it, for other games, etc.

2) Even if you don't come to play, you can come to talk, from any platform. There are IRC clients for almost any O/S imaginable. This can't be done with programs like b.net (eg. have you ever seen b.net run natively on UNIX? (that is, without an emulator))
You can also access it from a java webclient if need be. (ie. don't need to install in libraries, schools, etc)

3) IRC is already configured on many systems, for example many UNIX/Linux packages have some sort of IRC client.... (irssi, bX, etc)

4) Isn't it just easier using software that has been written already, and tested, free of bugs? I think so. If someone is really that lazy that we can't open the game, and click multi, tcp/ip, and host or join instead of using a stupid program, they need help. Nor would we need our own servers, etc to host a "program" like such networks require... We have the IRC server for the platform to run the chat on.


And like Lev said, a program just sucks up more resources and won't work for all people.

Just please use IRC... I'll say it again: network Quakenet channel #outpost2.
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Offline Punboy

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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2004, 05:30:10 PM »
Actually, the multiplatform part of what you just said is entirely untrue. Write one in any of the following languages and BAM! Its multiplatform with NO recoding:

 - Perl
 - Python
 - Java
 - Ruby

And as far as the resource-hogging, if you design it properly it won't use very many at all! And you can have it die when you start a game so it doesnt affect game performance, and just start back up when you finish.

And there are alot of people who don't understand the concept of a TCP/IP game. Should she shun these people from the game? No, we should try to accomodate them any way possible. A program to start the games with no monkeying around with IP addresses is EXACTLY how this can be achieved. It makes it alot more user-friendly and alot more "professional" too.

And as far as just going there to talk, how about making the chat portion of it run on IRC? It would be farely simple to write an application that used IRC as its transport for pre-game stuff. Communication between client and server can be done with a privmsg or ctcp! Then, the people who just want to talk can just join the IRC channel using their fave IRC client, and the people who want to play a game can start OP2, go to multiplayer, it starts the Multiplayer client. The people using an IRC client and the people in the multiplayer client can talk to one another.

Thats my 0.02 cents.
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