Actually, Civilization 4 is pretty good. It it still just an upped Civ game, but the graphics are amazing. (However, my GeForce4 MX 420 can't really handle it completely... supposedly missing a few features) It's been changed quite a bit, too. For example, the governments and stuff have been changed a bit, includings the new Civics, which determine the qualities of the rule. I really haven't played it a lot (since the units move slow...), but it seems quite interesting. I hope to see new changes in games like this a bit more. Or something of the sort.