Author Topic: Rebuilding The Wiki (Read 43114 times)

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #75 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:58:45 AM »

@Sirbomber: Ah, thanks for the info.

Hm.. then perhaps a new wiki will need some sort of post-approval first.

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #76 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:03:46 AM »

Umm, just wondering, do you have a list of all ingame technologies for me to copy (i'm using the picture Kontana made at the moment).

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #77 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:06:50 AM »

@Spikerocks101: Have you even looked at the question I posted earlier? :blink:
(The one about hosting it ourselves..)

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #78 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:23:08 AM »

i really don't know what any of that is

This was one i used before, so i dicided to use it again. If you show me how to do one, i would build it that way.

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #79 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:33:36 AM »

Sure.. I'll see if I can setup a host for you somewhere.

I think DokuWiki also also has some support for restrictions, though I'm not sure. This could make it all more managable

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #80 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:34:48 AM »

btw, is it going to be editing online or offline, becuase i perfer offline (the one site i was using has some serious lag)

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #81 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:42:29 AM »

Depends..
How would offline-editing work?
I'm not sure if you can do checkout's or anything.. and I dont think the wiki will play nice with FTP software..

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #82 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:43:59 AM »

ok. well, i will hold off editing until you get the thing set up.

Hidiot · « **Reply #83 on:** June 23, 2009, 11:11:05 AM »

Why don't you just approach the thing with patience? Have the local wiki cleared and re-started, as was suggested, but never had enough support?

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #84 on:** June 23, 2009, 11:15:41 AM »

oh, so thats what he ment. ok. i do wish to start right away thou

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #85 on:** June 23, 2009, 11:28:51 AM »

It would be great is we could use OPU's wiki, ofcourse (but maybe change the software over to DokuWiki, as that's what I'm gonna install [unless someone else has a better idea]).

I'll set the DokuWiki up anyway, and see if we can convert it later or something.

>_< .. didn't count on 48hr approval time..

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #86 on:** June 23, 2009, 11:37:19 AM »

since the current opu wiki is called "Outpost-Universe" and hooman said he wanted to switch everything over to "Outpost2", maybe, for a bit, we can have 2 wikis?

n/m, wiki.outpost2.net redirects to the other one...

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #87 on:** June 23, 2009, 01:32:53 PM »

Planning can never hurt, and while we're waiting for the server to validate, here's a possible list for the setup.

Everything is divided into namespaces, except for misc-articles.
Like 'namespace:article' as the url.
Sub-namespaces (like the 'Units' below) are just units:article; not game_info:units:article.

[Misc]
[Game Info] (plot, manuals)
--[Building] (basically, things like this)
--[Units]
--[Research]
[Running the Game]
--[Setup/Install]
--[Multiplayer]
[Modding]
--[Mapping]
--[Missioning]
--[Hacking]
[Projects]

Brazilian Fan · « **Reply #88 on:** June 23, 2009, 01:54:57 PM »

Or, you could start contributing to Outpost EarthWiki right away.

[size=8](Between you and me, there is content. And 10 articles, yay!)[/size]

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #89 on:** June 23, 2009, 02:06:20 PM »

Wait.. there are 4 OP2 wiki's now? (this, earthwiki, spikerocks, [mine])
Wow..

Don't really like your wiki though.. (sorry)

You can't apply any restrictions or anything, and it can get messy real quick.
Just wait for the wiki of spikerocks and me.. It's gonna be a lot cleaner.

Brazilian Fan · « **Reply #90 on:** June 23, 2009, 02:10:44 PM »

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You can't apply any restrictions or anything, and it can get messy real quick.
Just wait for the wiki of spikerocks and me.. It's gonna be a lot cleaner.

Who said I can't apply restrictions? The main page, for example, is fully protected. Only I can edit it. Anyway, I'm targeting content, and not prettiness.
But I do disagree with you, self-hosted wiki is not always the answer. It's a lot easier to maintain the front-end than both the from-end and back-end.

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #91 on:** June 23, 2009, 02:19:16 PM »

Hm.. I don't know.. I don't know..
I always like control over my files.
(we'll never agree on this)

But.. let's face it.. multiple wiki's is not really usefull, is it?
We need to decide wich one to use:

[Spikerocks/AmIMeYet]
[Brazilian Fan]

I VOTE MINE!

Brazilian Fan · « **Reply #92 on:** June 23, 2009, 02:29:24 PM »

We'll always agree: I like 100% control of my files, but sometimes it isn't nice to have to support an overly complicated infrastructure for 100%, if you can just forget and have 80%

.

Also agree that multiple wikis aren't useful, but since you chose yours, I'll choose mine. At least I have some content.
Or we could write two separate wikis and let OPU choose.

AmIMeYet · « **Reply #93 on:** June 23, 2009, 02:39:51 PM »

(Wait, so if I hadn't voted mine, you did?

)

First off: the content will be the same anyway (in the end); same users, same content.

Let me ask you something: Can you export all the wiki data?
Because DokuWiki saves everything as a text file; we can go in and get it even if bandwidth is exceeded or anything.. and can easily be moved to another host.

From what I hear from you (you can set permissions, etc.) you already have a back-end of some kind. Why not just take on the files too? There's no real maintainance to be done there. It's really not complicated. If we where to code the wiki ourselves, then we'd be screwed, but this software is made to be easy.

If only my hosting account got validated real quick and I could show you how awesome it is

Sure, bandwidth is a potential issue; but I do think the small OP community won't exceed 10GB (a month?)

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #94 on:** June 23, 2009, 03:02:52 PM »

Well, either way, i'm quitting the one site i had, but keeping the naem (maybe i should redirect it to another wiki?). non the less, i really hate all wikis that have adds (again, i only used that becuase its all i had). Once ur server things is up, please let me edit it freely

Hooman · « **Reply #95 on:** June 24, 2009, 12:35:56 AM »

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Hooman asked me to name it "Outpost2" to keep things simple (war origanly called Outpost-Universe).

Say what? I think you're confusing two different things.

I suggested you not use the name Outpost Universe, but I didn't suggest what you should change the name to. Name it whatever you want, just it should probably be different from the name of this place if it's an external site.

My other suggestion was about the link to the Outpost Universe site. For those that don't know, there are at least 3 domain names in use for the Outpost Universe. They are:
outpostuniverse.net
outpostuniverse.net
outpost2.net

During the site update, I removed the domain name from most links that didn't need it, so the pages would play nice no matter where they were hosted. For the ones that did need a full domain name in the link, I've started using outpost2.net. Mostly because it's shorter and easier to type. Plus, I've noticed occasional confusing behavior when switching between them, like being "logged out" of the forums. I figure it might be helpful to standardize on one of them, rather than just use any of them at random.

Leviathan · « **Reply #96 on:** June 24, 2009, 05:09:30 AM »

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Nope.
Though so...
Sad actually. A good Wiki would help getting more members.

I agree I think it would help. It would make it easier for members to learn about the game and making content for it.

Spikerocks101 the wiki is up:
wiki.outpostuniverse.net/

We should NOT have multiple wikis, we should stick to one, OPU's wiki. Anyone can edit and contribute towards it.

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #97 on:** June 24, 2009, 05:33:41 AM »

i still can't edit anything, unless you were saying something else...

Sirbomber · « **Reply #98 on:** June 24, 2009, 08:03:25 AM »

Lev has this annoying habit of only reading 2 or 3 new posts (and even then not reading them fully) and assuming what the rest of the new posts are about... Just keep doing what you were doing.

Brazilian Fan · « **Reply #99 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:45:03 AM »

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(Wait, so if I hadn't voted mine, you did? )

First off: the content will be the same anyway (in the end); same users, same content.

Let me ask you something: Can you export all the wiki data?
Because DokuWiki saves everything as a text file; we can go in and get it even if bandwidth is exceeded or anything.. and can easily be moved to another host.

From what I hear from you (you can set permissions, etc.) you already have a back-end of some kind. Why not just take on the files too? There's no real maintainance to be done there. It's really not complicated. If we where to code the wiki ourselves, then we'd be screwed, but this software is made to be easy.

If only my hosting account got validated real quick and I could show you how awesome it is

Sure, bandwidth is a potential issue; but I do think the small OP community won't exceed 10GB (a month?)

If you hadn't said "I CHOSE MINE!", I'd have voted for the OPU wiki. Anyway, competition is good, and better content may arise.

Why the hell would I want to export data? Even in the remote possibility I really wanted to export/backup wiki pages, a simple script, even written in JavaScript, would do the trick. (Bandwidth isn't a problem, Wikia doesn't limit it)

The main 'thing' about wikis is content, information. If it is good and easly accessible, everything else is superfulous detail.

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