[ 12:02:29 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] can u post here plz
[ 12:02:42 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ]
http://forum.outpostuniverse.net/index.php?showtopic=1672[ 12:03:25 ] [ DM-Horus ] just finishing up a reply to some nasty posts...
[ 12:07:37 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ya it seams ppl r jumping on u a bit..
[ 12:07:52 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] im rly glad that ur posting and r so active allrdy
[ 12:13:47 ] [ DM-Horus ] well ive been following the OPU since the beginning. i only really got involved when it looked like there might be some serious activity. to be honest, i was very skeptical in the beginning. ive been disappointed by endeavors like this in the past and i really didnt want the same thing to sour OP2.
[ 12:15:58 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] realy
[ 12:16:02 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ah i c
[ 12:16:13 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] how long have u followed the forums then?
[ 12:16:50 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i created OPU shortly before june 2004 wen we had the first reunion
[ 12:16:58 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] the forums have been around longer than that tho.
[ 12:17:12 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] and in march me and hacker took over control of them and moved to the current domain.
[ 12:18:50 ] [ DM-Horus ] i started regularly following the place on the old forums. i remember the whole power struggle thing and when that happened i figured "its just like the others" and i didnt investigate til summer '04. since then ive been waiting to see if it would fall apart again, but it seems like things are going a lot smoother
[ 12:20:24 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] what power struggle u talkn about ?, the killer s***?
[ 12:21:09 ] [ DM-Horus ] yeah
[ 12:21:10 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] that was the only power struggle i can think of before 04
[ 12:21:14 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i wasent around then
[ 12:21:19 ] [ DM-Horus ] oic
[ 12:21:21 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ya
[ 12:21:26 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i came in feb 03
[ 12:21:29 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] made the irc channel
[ 12:21:30 ] [ DM-Horus ] you know killer made a hate site for opu right?
[ 12:21:37 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] no
[ 12:21:58 ] [ DM-Horus ] yeah, i found it while searching for op2. his site had a link to opu on it and thats when i got interested again
[ 12:22:16 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] what a waist of his time
[ 12:22:37 ] [ DM-Horus ] and i found killer's site in a guestbook on new haven command site, when it was still around
[ 12:22:54 ] [ DM-Horus ] yeah i could see a lot of hatred there
[ 12:23:01 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i c
[ 12:23:04 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] thats very old news tho
[ 12:23:14 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] so is the forum take over in march 05
[ 12:23:52 ] [ DM-Horus ] yea
[ 12:23:58 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] all what matters is where we are now
[ 12:24:04 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] and where we are going
[ 12:24:35 ] [ DM-Horus ] i agree
[ 12:24:57 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] realy i created opu
[ 12:25:07 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i have no idea where the outpost comunity would be now with out me
[ 12:25:28 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] im not trying to be big headed, just stating the fact
[ 12:25:33 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] and leting u know
[ 12:26:13 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] wen i first came to the forums people where anoyed at me for allways trying to get peple on irc
[ 12:26:21 ] [ DM-Horus ] no, i know.
[ 12:26:29 ] [ DM-Horus ] i dont know what id do without irc now.
[ 12:26:36 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i even got baned from the PA forums for spaming them so much
[ 12:26:53 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i wanted to bring the few people at the pa forums to us
[ 12:27:12 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] the op comunity is so small, people/infomation/everythign should b in 1 place
[ 12:27:46 ] [ DM-Horus ] where are you looking to mine new ppl?
[ 12:27:57 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] mine, as in get new members?
[ 12:28:26 ] [ DM-Horus ] yep
[ 12:28:49 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] well once we r ready we hope to go on an offencive and post on many forums and wherevea
[ 12:29:13 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] were simply not ready tet
[ 12:29:14 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] yet
[ 12:29:49 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] there is still a small number of people who do real work
[ 12:30:01 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] the wiki needs a huge amount of work etc
[ 12:30:40 ] [ DM-Horus ] in what areas?
[ 12:30:44 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] every
[ 12:32:31 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] but do u understand our goal?
[ 12:32:40 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] to get ready to try and expand
[ 12:34:42 ] [ DM-Horus ] it seems to me like the community is somewhat splintered
[ 12:34:57 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ah yes i did read that pm u sent me
[ 12:35:12 ] [ DM-Horus ] like theres groups of people working on their own projects but not really contributing to the core. i consider the wiki to be core and not many people have contributed to it
[ 12:35:28 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ok i c what u mean
[ 12:35:49 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] a side project like op3 gen
[ 12:35:56 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] like i said in that poll topic
[ 12:36:24 ] [ DM-Horus ] the op3 thing offended me at first because there was no information present on it. all the info went to dead links and the subdir for op3 is still down so i couldnt glean anything more from those threads.
[ 12:37:01 ] [ DM-Horus ] so lacking any solid info on the project, it seemed to me like the op3 team was more or less taking advantage of the community resources. thats what had me fired up.
[ 12:37:07 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] well the people working on the project release info wen they r ready
[ 12:37:15 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i c
[ 12:37:26 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] have u looked at the gen site now?
[ 12:37:27 ] [ DM-Horus ] theyve release alot, nobody can view it is all.
[ 12:37:41 ] [ DM-Horus ] i havent tried in a couple days
[ 12:39:38 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] n e other ways u think it is splinterd
[ 12:39:40 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ?
[ 12:41:36 ] [ DM-Horus ] im noticing a LOT of new forum members but very little new posts.
[ 12:41:45 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] that has allways been the case
[ 12:41:54 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] the same with people joining, and not seen again a month later
[ 12:42:07 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] its allways been the thing which anoyies me n hacker the most
[ 12:42:34 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] even old players who have come on the forums and said IM BACK!!!! r gone a motnh later
[ 12:42:35 ] [ DM-Horus ] the line between op2 dev and op3 dev is very defined. i think some of the effort being done on op3 could be used to improved op2 multi stuff but thats just an opinion.
[ 12:43:45 ] [ DM-Horus ] like i said, ive seen this happen before. if op2 deve falls apart the op3 dev wont have its resources and both will collapse. how many people are working on op2?
[ 12:44:20 ] [ DM-Horus ] the way im seeing things might just be due to an excess of forum activity on the parts of some members making it seem like theres more going on.
[ 12:44:47 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] [ 12:29:49 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] there is still a small number of people who do real work
[ 12:45:32 ] [ DM-Horus ] you and hacker do most of it it seems
[ 12:45:37 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] i have no real number, thats prolly a issue to be addressed, we should have a wiki page for every1 who is working on somthing to post
[ 12:45:54 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] yep.. manily hacker cuz he can actualy program
[ 12:46:01 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] hooman has done a lot of great work
[ 12:46:07 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] and eddy has done lots
[ 12:46:25 ] [ DM-Horus ] o yea eddy
[ 12:46:58 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] im gonna post this convo in the opu team forum. maybe after to the public.
[ 12:47:28 ] [ DM-Horus ] what for? to show ppl that im really not a snarling troll?
[ 12:47:57 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] hmm, to c how i and u c things.
[ 12:48:03 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] to show *
[ 12:48:43 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] basicly so hacker can read it
[ 12:49:32 ] [ DM-Horus ] yea that sounds good. another thing, i can see why you wanted to push irc so much. once i got on irc and really got involved the goal of opu became more clear. i think if more ppl got "in" enough to learn the goal, the place would be alot more active.
[ 12:49:53 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] ya some ppl just use the forums
[ 12:50:00 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] and ive never considerd them involved
[ 12:50:14 ] [ OPU|Leviathan ] well lecture is over. bye