i know i dont post alot (not sure why) but this seemed important because lots of people that post seem under/mis informed so i decided to put these irc logs here for people to read.
In my opinion xfir seems a bit... agitated, but hacker and lev were going behind his back, and he didnt protect the site (I assume) because he trusted them. It also looks like this is after he figured out levi and hacker were up to something, but thats just my opinion, these are for other people to read and to my knowledge, have no been edited in any way whatsoever, the titles are the file names as i found them.
"xfir_takes_fourm_down.txt"
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(21:25:55) (Oprime|FFXI) lol
(21:26:02) (@OPU|xfir) Yea... go about kissing my ass... I'll leave the forum in one piece.
(21:26:13) (Noetic_Nim) so you are unwilling to understand some one elses pont of view so much that you will resote to violent action
(21:26:18) (Oprime|FFXI) what
(21:26:20) (@OPU|xfir) Like I said, it won't take much to kill the forum.
(21:26:34) (@OPU|hacker) why do you keep referring to killing the forum?
(21:26:35) (@OPU|xfir) Who is to say that is violent?
(21:26:41) (@OPU|hacker) its not really a great joke
(21:26:44) (@OPU|xfir) Technically I own the damn thing.
(21:26:44) (Noetic_Nim) it is
(21:26:48) (@OPU|hacker) a good joke would be
(21:26:54) (@OPU|xfir) Nervous?
(21:26:57) (Noetic_Nim) no
(21:26:57) (@OPU|hacker) ill find where u live
(21:26:59) (@OPU|hacker) and eat you
(21:27:03) (Noetic_Nim) lol
(21:27:08) (@OPU|xfir) And eat me! That won't bring it back.
(21:27:10) (Oprime|FFXI)
(21:27:38) (@OPU|hacker) and you want to delete it why?
(21:27:50) (Noetic_Nim) so your saying that becuse you think you own the sight that you have the right to not understand people?
(21:28:05) (Noetic_Nim) so your a monarch
(21:28:08) (Noetic_Nim) is that it
(21:28:14) (Oprime|FFXI) xfir are you angry at us or something
(21:28:1) (Noetic_Nim) this form is not the property of the community
(21:28:3) (Noetic_Nim) ?
(21:28:43) (Sl0vi) wtf is the point in all of this?
(21:28:44) (@OPU|xfir) ooh s***.
(21:28:47) •›› Nick: (OPU|xfir) is now known as (OPU|xfir|out)
(21:28:58) (Oprime|FFXI) ?
(21:29:04) (Noetic_Nim) well whatever
(21:29:13) (Oprime|FFXI) ok I'm confused
(21:29:26) (Noetic_Nim) i hope he dost go balistic on you guys
(21:29:34) •›› Quit: (Chaos|brb) (~extremere@pcp0011618543pcs.glst3401.nj.comcast.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
(21:29:45) (Sl0vi) he actually killed the forum
(21:30:04) (Noetic_Nim) i dont think so
(21:30:16) (Sl0vi) well, its not working
(21:30:17) (Noetic_Nim) if he did thats kinda messed up
(21:30:23) (@OPU|hacker) HMM
(21:30:26) (Oprime|FFXI) it went from talking about baikon to shuting down the forums?
(21:30:49) (Sl0vi) Can I ask, what is the problem in here tonight?
(21:30:54) (Noetic_Nim) i dont know
(21:31:00) (Oprime|FFXI) :/ don't ask me
(21:31:09) (Oprime|FFXI) I have no clue
(21:31:29) (Oprime|FFXI) I just got back after a week of playing final fantasy online
(21:31:35) (Noetic_Nim) i just asked him if the form was the property of the communtity or not
(21:31:42) •›› Nick: (0zigzagjoe|gmeet) is now known as (0zigzagjoe)
(21:31:49) (Oprime|FFXI) no it's his
(21:31:50) (Noetic_Nim) i mean it should be right
(21:31:53) (Sl0vi) property of the community?? Is there such a thing?
(21:32:02) (Oprime|FFXI) nope
(21:32:03) (Sl0vi) no it's his... sort of
(21:32:07) (Noetic_Nim) so
(21:32:25) (Oprime|FFXI) it was started by xfir
(21:32:31) (Sl0vi) he owns the website, so he has full control of it and can do whatever he likes with it
(21:32:31) (Oprime|FFXI) right hacker
(21:32:35) (+zigzagjoe) hello
(21:32:40) (Noetic_Nim) thats kinda too bad for you guys
(21:32:46) (Oprime|FFXI) OPU|hacker
(21:32:58) (Noetic_Nim) so he has compleate contorll
(21:33:01) (@OPU|hacker) yes?
(21:33:05) (Oprime|FFXI) yes
(21:33:08) (Sl0vi) have you ever heard of a forum completely owned by a community?
(21:33:27) (Noetic_Nim) well thats not vary democratic
(21:33:35) (Oprime|FFXI) what is?
(21:33:36) (Sl0vi) well, this is the internet
(21:33:46) (+zigzagjoe) anybody hosting a game?
(21:33:50) (Sl0vi) who says it's democratic?
(21:33:52) (Oprime|FFXI) the US is really not a democracy
(21:33:57) (Noetic_Nim) i know
(21:34:02) (Noetic_Nim) you dont need to remind me
(21:34:03) (Noetic_Nim) lol
(21:34:14) (Oprime|FFXI) it's a republic
(21:34:29) (Noetic_Nim) its not rilly that eather
(21:34:29) (Sl0vi) lol
(21:34:30) (Oprime|FFXI) nothing is democratic
(21:34:37) (+zigzagjoe) arrg...
(21:34:39) (Sl0vi) schwitzerland is
(21:34:43) (@OPU|Leviathan) hm
(21:34:44) (Noetic_Nim) its more like an orgalarcy
(21:35:06) (Sl0vi) almost all laws get voted on there
(21:35:14) (+zigzagjoe) @OPU|Leviathan: what time zone are you in?
(21:35:17) (Oprime|FFXI) I don't think swiss is ether
(21:35:19) (@OPU|Leviathan) erm
(21:35:30) (+zigzagjoe) ...
(21:35:31) (Sl0vi) what is your understanding of a democracy???
(21:35:37) (Sl0vi) cause it seems a bit of
(21:35:39) (Noetic_Nim) well go back to anchent greece and they had in 500 bc a true republic
(21:35:48) (Oprime|FFXI) when the people control the goverment
(21:35:57) (Sl0vi) the people sort of do
(21:36:01) (Oprime|FFXI) not a single person is the ruler
(21:36:13) (+zigzagjoe) is/can anybody hosting a game?
(21:36:16) (Sl0vi) Well, where I live, we have multyparty governments
(21:36:26) (Sl0vi) so no single person can be the ruler here
(21:36:27) (Noetic_Nim) whare do you live?
(21:36:33) (Oprime|FFXI) not even a single group can be a ruler
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"The_Last_Battles.txt"
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(13:37:41) (@OPU|xfir) You should know perfectly well.
(13:37:47) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ??
(13:40:01) (@OPU|xfir) I suppose you want to tell me a line that "well the IRC channel isn't community owned." Bulls***. If you think I won't notice your little power trip, then you are dead wrong. Which is why I'm the only admin at the forums.
(13:40:22) (@OPU|xfir) Thus, you cut me, I cut you.
(13:40:26) (@OPU|Leviathan) i removed ppls status on channels ya
(13:40:47) (@OPU|Leviathan) i no longer am mod ?
(13:41:03) (Eric3d2b) lol
(13:41:10) (@OPU|xfir) You wanted Owner on Lobby. So I gave it to you. And you removed mine. Then hacker removes most of my status in the bot.
(13:41:12) (@OPU|Leviathan) no more deleted ppls shouts
(13:41:19) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:41:23) (@OPU|Leviathan) rly.. i c.. okdokes
(13:41:35) (@OPU|xfir) Thus I'm cutting both of you off.
(13:41:39) (@OPU|Leviathan) sure
(13:41:51) (Eric3d2b) lol
(13:41:57) (@OPU|xfir) This can easily end ugly.
(13:42:15) (@OPU|Leviathan) i dont think it will
(13:42:29) (@OPU|Leviathan) its ended,, u got forums how u like
(13:43:31) (@MoogleKupoHaX) eeep
(13:43:34) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:43:52) (+zigzagjoe|clean) i have no idea whats goin down but it ain't good.
(13:44:05) (@OPU|xfir) Why exactly do you need supreme power in all the channels anyway? and what's next? #Outpost2.coding gonna get the shaft like lobby and this channel?
(13:44:05) (Nightmare24148) Hehe
(13:44:15) (@OPU|Leviathan) all i can say joe is what i allways say, post on forums more
(13:44:38) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:44:59) (Nightmare24148) Sigh
(13:45:06) (@OPU|xfir) What I can't see is why you couldn't handle me being owner in lobby.
(13:45:09) (@OPU|Leviathan) i clearly dont need it xfir, but i started this channel so i chose to keep it how it is
(13:45:53) (+zigzagjoe|clean) is this some kind of pwer struggle?
(13:46:08) (@OPU|xfir) Right. So then I can say that since I started the forum, I have total control, which I do. There is no "community" ownership.
(13:46:14) (Nightmare24148) Is this some bad war?
(13:46:15) (Nightmare24148) OH NOES!
(13:46:18) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:46:20) (@OPU|xfir) This is me b****ing them out.
(13:46:23) (@OPU|Leviathan) he dosent like me bein the only one 2 have 'supreme' power on irc
(13:46:54) (@OPU|Leviathan) right
(13:46:58) (Eric3d2b) unless you bring a form of won into this, than this place is fine as is
(13:47:15) (Eric3d2b) no changes necessary
(13:47:16) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:47:18) (@OPU|xfir) I wonder what will happen if we decide to move the IRC channel... and leave Levi here.
(13:47:25) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:47:34) (Eric3d2b) doubt it would happen...
(13:47:43) (+zigzagjoe|clean) i sense deep enimety.
(13:47:44) (@OPU|Leviathan) id cry
(13:47:44) (@OPU|Leviathan) etc
(13:48:08) (@OPU|xfir) Like I said, I have the complete control over the site.
(13:48:08) (Nightmare24148) A great storm is coming...
(13:48:13) (Eric3d2b) that would be taking players away from op2! Thats blasphemy!
(13:48:19) (@OPU|Leviathan)
(13:48:25) (@OPU|xfir) Bah. There aren't enough as it is.
(13:48:31) (Nightmare24148) Ok ok xfir has the control
(13:48:32) (@MoogleKupoHaX) If there is going to be this massive power struggle can i havew a backup copy of everything juist incase the s*** hits the fan please?
(13:48:42) (Eric3d2b) lol
(13:48:43) (@OPU|xfir) Outpost 3 is more than likely never going to be released.
(13:48:51) (@OPU|xfir) MoogleKupoHaX: No.
(13:48:53) (Eric3d2b) wha...
(13:49:05) (@OPU|xfir) If it goes down, it is going like NHCS.
(13:49:07) (Eric3d2b) why...
(13:49:19) (Eric3d2b) they were okay...
(13:49:24) (@MoogleKupoHaX) nhcs?
(13:49:30) (@OPU|Leviathan) new haven command site.
(13:49:33) (Eric3d2b) new haven comand site
(13:49:34) (@OPU|xfir) Lack of interest on the developers part. None of them seem capable of actually completing it.
(13:49:48) (Nightmare24148) Ok so the problem is Levi has the IRC, but xfir has thge site...so whats the problem?
(13:50:04) (@OPU|xfir) Sure there may be input of new members, but in reality, this community is dying.
(13:50:04) (Eric3d2b) thats the thing eden versus plymouth
(13:50:12) (Eric3d2b) levi reps plymouth
(13:50:12) (@OPU|Leviathan) yea weve allwys known it xfir. least leeor is workin on opmia
(13:50:24) (@OPU|Leviathan) but ya knux is more or less gone :/
(13:50:43) (@OPU|Leviathan) xfir i totaly disagree
(13:50:47) (@OPU|Leviathan) the comunity is growing
(13:50:59) (@OPU|xfir) Nothing here to keep people here.
(13:51:08) (Nightmare24148) Hmmm I was actually once thinking of making an OP2 TC for generals or Yuris Revenge or something
(13:51:08) (Nightmare24148) Im thinking
(13:51:14) (Eric3d2b) people just have other things to do and will be back once in a while
(13:51:17) (@MoogleKupoHaX) not with that attiture OPU|xfir
(13:51:22) (@MoogleKupoHaX) attitude
(13:51:31) (@OPU|xfir) Nightmare24148: and if you did, what are the chances you'd complete it?
(13:51:36) (@OPU|Leviathan) Nightmare if u wanna help op2, learn 2 build/code for it. not otehr games.
(13:51:36) (@OPU|xfir) MoogleKupoHaX: shut it.
(13:51:45) (Eric3d2b) updates and reunions probably organize the forces
(13:51:59) (Nightmare24148) IDK
(13:52:07) (Nightmare24148) Id have to assemble a team and see if it is even possible to code
(13:52:17) (Nightmare24148) I got a bunch of people I can try to convince to help
(13:52:19) (@OPU|xfir) People lack motivation to complete things they don't get rewards for.
(13:52:30) (Nightmare24148) Im also a person of derelictstudios.net
(13:52:32) (Nightmare24148) Staff
(13:52:33) (Eric3d2b) they get the happy comments of faithful fans...
(13:52:35) (Nightmare24148) IDK tho
(13:52:38) (Nightmare24148) Maybe
(13:52:50) (@OPU|Leviathan) hes sayig Eric3d2b that there aint enough of us
(13:52:54) (@MoogleKupoHaX) thats why i wanted to set up a rewards system
(13:53:08) (@OPU|Leviathan) xifr i dont understand that ur main feeling is that op3 and new projects r main part or most importiant
(13:53:11) (@OPU|xfir) A minor improvement in self-esteem from your 6 fans, great. Not to mention the hammering from all the disappointed people.
(13:53:25) (@OPU|Leviathan) we dont need new game projects or wutevaa 2 keep ppl here. we got op2
(13:53:31) (@OPU|xfir) MoogleKupoHaX: and persay how would we do that?
(13:53:50) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(13:54:05) (@MoogleKupoHaX) paypal donations
(13:54:05) (Eric3d2b) finsih the current projects and its like making goods from the consumer factory
(13:54:06) (@OPU|Leviathan) moogle if u got ideas like that post em in opu dev forum or somthin
(13:54:11) (@OPU|xfir) And what in Outpost 2 keeps people here?
(13:54:33) (Eric3d2b) the fact its a great game
(13:54:35) (@OPU|Leviathan) the game itself
(13:54:37) (@MoogleKupoHaX) the game
(13:54:41) (+zigzagjoe|clean) yes
(13:54:43) (@OPU|xfir) MoogleKupoHaX: I have a paypal button.. and you know what? Mez is the ONLY person who has donated to it.
(13:54:48) (@OPU|Leviathan) the improtmets were now able 2 make.
(13:54:58) (Eric3d2b) arent you supposd to be cleaning?
(13:55:04) (@MoogleKupoHaX) yeah but it onl goes to you
(13:55:07) (@OPU|Leviathan) 2 chanch that ppl can now many there own things 4 the game
(13:55:12) (@OPU|xfir) Aren't your improvements making people mad though?
(13:55:27) (@OPU|Leviathan) correct there
(13:55:30) (Nightmare24148) Im gonna take a break
(13:55:35) (@OPU|Leviathan) cya
(13:55:43) (@OPU|xfir) MoogleKupoHaX: what I am trying to get across is that even if we had that, there still wouldn't be anyone to donate to it.
(13:55:44) (+zigzagjoe|clean) cya
(13:55:49) (Eric3d2b) you pissed off the cheaters...
(13:56:09) (@OPU|Leviathan) cuz were a small comunity xfir
(13:56:10) (+zigzagjoe|clean) yes i'm cleaning but i'm popping on every min or so
(13:56:20) (+zigzagjoe|clean) this is something i should know
(13:56:21) (Eric3d2b) ah
(13:56:26) (@MoogleKupoHaX) we need advertizeing
(13:56:28) (@OPU|xfir) This community is composed mostly of poor individuals and people under the age of 18.
(13:56:31) (Eric3d2b) yes...
(13:56:36) (+zigzagjoe|clean) yes
(13:56:39) (@OPU|Leviathan) but we cant adtervise yet MoogleKupoHaX imo. were not rdy.
(13:56:41) (@OPU|xfir) Advertising costs
(13:57:04) (@OPU|xfir) Not to mention the concerns over bandwidth
(13:57:08) (@MoogleKupoHaX) we could have shirts that people could buy
(13:57:09) (@OPU|Leviathan) i was gonna say somlike like that xfir.. most ppl r young and dont wanna pay. and money shouldnt hav n e thing 2 do with this.
(13:57:14) (Eric3d2b) if i made money i would help the advertisement...
(13:57:41) (@OPU|xfir) MoogleKupoHaX: YOU NEED INTEREST BEFORE THAT WORKS (-caps)
(13:57:49) (@OPU|Leviathan) rite
(13:58:11) (@MoogleKupoHaX) well you could give out trophies and metals to competition winners
(13:58:18) (Eric3d2b) poot on sites like the cheat sites, the game news sites...
(13:58:19) (@OPU|xfir) Which means nothing
(13:58:27) (Eric3d2b) put*
(13:58:29) (@MoogleKupoHaX) no
(13:58:56) (@MoogleKupoHaX) we could have a noob only event for noobs to compeat agents noobs only
(13:59:07) (@OPU|Leviathan) MoogleKupoHaX were all for ur ideas and input but not now..
(13:59:15) (Eric3d2b) lol that wood be fun
(13:59:16) (@OPU|xfir) Still, no real motivation if you get a plastic trophy for something
(13:59:29) (@OPU|xfir) It all costs money. I don't plan on investing any more into this.
(13:59:48) (@MoogleKupoHaX) ill invest
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(13:59:51) (@OPU|Leviathan) ill invest
(13:59:57) (PacoTheDon) sup lev
(13:59:57) (Eric3d2b) i would if i could...
(14:00:00) (PacoTheDon) invest in what?
(14:00:01) (@OPU|xfir) Then why haven't you yet?
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(14:00:18) (@MoogleKupoHaX) need leadership team
(14:03:44) (@OPU|xfir) Tell me something, did Kevin let you move the forums? Nope! Did Kiler? Nope!
(14:03:50) (@OPU|xfir) So why should I?
(14:04:12) (@MoogleKupoHaX) so tyhe game you love doesnt die
(14:04:16) (Eric3d2b) this is for the sake of op2 here
(14:04:27) (@OPU|xfir) It is aleady dead.
(14:04:45) (@OPU|Leviathan) incorrect
(14:04:49) (@OPU|Leviathan) think what u like
(14:04:53) (@OPU|Leviathan) let us be.
(14:04:54) (@OPU|xfir) Open your eyes man!
(14:04:56) (Eric3d2b) is nobdy caring for this game? if so then it is but peeps still care
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(14:04:59) (@OPU|Leviathan) can we have the forum plz @:D
(14:05:05) (@OPU|xfir) lol
(14:05:11) (Punboy) Morning all
(14:05:13) (@OPU|xfir) hi Punboy
(14:05:24) (Eric3d2b) any fortunes?
(14:05:46) (Punboy) The only difference between a rut and a grave is their dimensions.
(14:05:49) (@OPU|xfir) Punboy: do you think Outpost 2 is dead?
(14:06:00) (Punboy) Hell no.
(14:06:06) (@OPU|xfir) lol
(14:06:07) (Punboy) why?
(14:06:12) (Eric3d2b) your a pessimist xfir
(14:06:14) (@OPU|xfir) Am I the only one who sees it as dead?
(14:06:18) (Punboy) yes
(14:06:22) (@OPU|xfir) Prove to me it isn't dead then.
(14:06:31) (Punboy) we're... all here because of OP2...
(14:06:35) (@OPU|Leviathan) hah
(14:06:39) (Eric3d2b) what are we talking about and are peeps stil playing it?
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(14:06:55) (@OPU|Leviathan) think what u like. thx
(14:07:02) (Eric3d2b) op2 and peeps love this game and are dedicated
(14:07:05) (PacoTheDon) lev whats up
(14:07:08) (PacoTheDon) wit it?
(14:07:12) (@OPU|Leviathan) im hosted paco.
(14:07:18) (@OPU|xfir) If it were alive I would see much more activity in the Outpost 2 game's FORUM, rather than the Gerenal/Off-topic and Test forums, no?
(14:07:30) (Punboy) development on new missions and mods are finally runing smoothly... thanks to the SDK, and soon thanks to hacker's new mapper
(14:07:37) (@OPU|Leviathan) xifr - think what u like. thx
(14:07:46) (@OPU|Leviathan)
(14:07:51) (+molson) =o
(14:07:57) (Eric3d2b) the chatrooms are more appealing than forums
(14:08:05) (Punboy) If it were dead, you would see alot LESS activity as far as people playing games if it were truly dead
(14:08:20) (@OPU|Leviathan) but it would be nice if u posted Eric3d2b cuz we want forums active too
(14:08:20) (Eric3d2b) three peeps a year at most means dead
(14:08:33) (PacoTheDon) ok
(14:08:49) (@MoogleKupoHaX) bah i g2g wash my car
(14:08:58) (Eric3d2b) dont get wet?
(14:08:59) (Punboy) fine, so you see it as dead. But isn't the mission of OPU to revitalize it?
(14:09:01) (Eric3d2b) ciao
(14:09:05) (@OPU|xfir) Punboy: did you up the bandwidth on the opuxfir acccount? it is going to max again
(14:09:27) (PacoTheDon) who thinks this is worth it, computer for $700 (althlon 64 2800+)
(14:09:28) (PacoTheDon)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-102-612&depa=0(14:09:29) (@OPU|Leviathan) xfir if u think its dead leave it, leave us, give up. but let us keep the forums, let us move them 2 a new site.
(14:09:33) (@OPU|xfir) Right, it is. I just don't see it being very prosperous
(14:09:42) (PacoTheDon) Im in lev.
(14:09:47) (@OPU|Leviathan) allrite PacoTheDon 2mins.
(14:09:54) (Eric3d2b) id do what i can
(14:09:58) (+molson) i dunno
(14:10:02) (+molson) since i started idling here
(14:10:04) (+molson) problly 2
(14:10:09) (+molson) years ago
(14:10:10) (PacoTheDon) guess that sok
(14:10:18) (+molson) there was maybe 4 ppl idling here, including lev and xfir
(14:10:18) (PacoTheDon) hey molson.. maybe we can get a 2on2.
(14:10:30) (+molson) now look how big it has grown
(14:10:34) (@OPU|xfir) Idling != playing
(14:10:37) (@OPU|Leviathan) rite molson
(14:10:40) (+molson) op2 isnt dead, its acctualy growing again
(14:10:43) (@OPU|Leviathan) we have come far.
(14:10:45) (+molson) i notice it
(14:10:47) (Punboy) hallelujah
(14:10:50) (+molson) cuz theres more ppl here everytime
(14:10:50) (@OPU|Leviathan) defo growing
(14:11:02) (@OPU|Leviathan) not dieing, so i donno y xfir u think it is.
(14:11:06) (@OPU|xfir) Another thing, why are Hooman and Hacker so damn secretive about thier work?
(14:11:17) (@OPU|Leviathan) no idea xfir.
(14:11:26) (Punboy) they dun like forks.
(14:11:29) (@OPU|xfir) OPU|Hooman|Away
(14:11:35) (+molson) because xfir they took the time to do it and dont want ppl going through it changing s*** or learning what they did
(14:11:42) (@OPU|Leviathan) xfir can we have the forums moved then? so u can be left in peace?
(14:11:58) (@OPU|xfir) I never said I was leaving.
(14:12:03) (@OPU|Leviathan) i no
(14:12:28) (PacoTheDon) eric anygood?
(14:12:29) (@OPU|xfir) Anyway, I want to switch them over to a new forum infastructure first.
(14:14:13) (@OPU|xfir) OPU|Leviathan: For lack of anything else to do in life, I'll stick with it. Sure, the community is alive just not as much as I would like to see it. It lost the same appeal it had a while back.
(14:16:57) (@OPU|Leviathan) xfir so u cant let it go and let us get on with it ?
(14:18:03) (@OPU|xfir) Now, what if I told you this was all a test?
(14:18:21) (@OPU|xfir) But I am still mad about the L flags.
(14:18:25) (@OPU|Leviathan) indeed
(14:18:43) (+zigzagjoe|clean) ...
(14:18:54) (@OPU|xfir) And the bot flags
(14:19:35) (@OPU|xfir) I may just go make the internal dev forum read-only for you .. since hacker won't be able to edit my changes
(14:19:55) (@OPU|xfir) No secrets?
(14:24:21) (@OPU|xfir) The mod/admin forum will still be invisivle
(14:24:26) (@OPU|xfir) Invisible
(14:27:53) (@OPU|xfir) OPU|Leviathan: I'll trust you enough to return you to GM status. But hacker won't be able to access admincp until I talk with him.
<...A DAY GOES BY....>
(15:13:59) (@OPU|xfir) why am I reminded of a situation some time ago that involved one such admin known as "Kiler" ?
(15:14:27) (@OPU|xfir) so OPU|hacker is the brainchild behind it?
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(15:21:44) (xamlit) ahhhhhhhhhhhh
(15:21:49) (xamlit) what happened to the forum
(15:22:08) (xamlit) OPU|xfir
(15:22:12) (xamlit) OPU|Leviathan
(15:22:15) (@OPU|xfir) Leave me alone.
(15:22:15) (xamlit) OPU|hacker
(15:22:26) (xamlit) whats up xfir? something wrong?
(15:22:30) (@OPU|xfir) Yes.
(15:22:37) (xamlit) ?
(15:22:51) (@OPU|xfir) Why don't you ask OPU|Leviathan or OPU|hacker.
(15:22:53) (xamlit) What is it?
(15:23:06) (xamlit) none of them are apparently around
(15:23:16) (xamlit) something ad happen?
(15:23:25) (xamlit) *bad
(15:24:52) (@OPU|Leviathan^) awww
(15:24:57) (@OPU|Leviathan^) forum go bye bye
(15:25:12) (xamlit) why?
(15:25:33) (@OPU|Leviathan^) its not my forum i woudlnt know
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(15:25:55) (@OPU|Leviathan^) hi Ste-V..
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(15:26:40) (@OPU|xfir) lol, OPU|Leviathan. You would too know.
(15:27:43) (@OPU|Leviathan^) i didnt take it down, u did
(15:28:04) (@OPU|xfir) The main difference here is that I have the FTP control. Unlike Kiler, who couldn't decide what he was doing.
(15:29:57) (@OPU|Leviathan^) rote
(15:30:50) (@OPU|xfir) Where is hacker? I want to b**** him out.
(15:30:57) (@OPU|Leviathan^) sure
(15:31:03) (@OPU|Leviathan^) hes eating tea
(15:31:05) (@OPU|Leviathan^) diner*
(15:31:16) (@OPU|xfir) eating tea?
(15:31:18) (@OPU|xfir) lol
(15:31:23) (xamlit) bleh.
(15:31:24) (@OPU|Leviathan^) we call it tea jere
(15:31:27) (xamlit) what type of changes?
(15:31:39) (xamlit) why the forum mutiny Lol.
(15:32:31) (@OPU|Leviathan^) xifr like i said y'day, can we move the forum please and leave u in peace?
(15:33:01) (xamlit) why the forum move?
(15:33:02) (xamlit) bleh.
(15:33:06) (xamlit) I like how it is now.
(15:33:10) (@OPU|xfir) But that's the thing. I don't want it to move.
(15:33:21) (xamlit) If too much power lies in one hand.. a dictatorship is in place.
(15:33:23) (xamlit) its good the way it is.
(15:33:33) (xamlit) lev has IRC n such
(15:33:38) (xamlit) xfir has forum
(15:33:51) (xamlit) if either one of you decided to be a prick.. we still have the other.
(15:34:12) (+Eddy-B) lev
(15:34:16) (+Eddy-B) u called me ?
(15:34:32) (@OPU|Leviathan^) dont worry Eddy-B
(15:34:36) (+Eddy-B) i dont
(15:34:44) (+Eddy-B) just saw u mention my name
(15:35:34) (+Eddy-B) ah.. i got it now :-)
(15:35:47) (+Eddy-B) i've been thinking about what to add to it..
(15:36:21) (@OPU|Leviathan^) i rly do need 2 help u with it i think
(15:36:22) (@OPU|Leviathan^) and other ppl
(15:36:31) (+Eddy-B) lol
(15:36:31) (@OPU|xfir) Thing is xamlit, they are trying to get the forum from me.
(15:36:43) (+Eddy-B) the programming thing is one thing - the "design" is another
(15:36:58) (@OPU|Leviathan^) we want ur blood.
(15:38:03) (xamlit) Hey, Lev, unless you provide some more info.. on what type of changes xfir is blocking I don't think I can fully have an opinion.
(15:38:30) (@OPU|Leviathan^) rite. so dont worry about it.
(15:40:41) (+zigzagjoe) neutrino whats your connection?
(15:41:05) (@OPU|hacker) back
(15:41:12) (xamlit) OPU|hacker
(15:41:13) (xamlit) Lol.
(15:41:20) (+zigzagjoe) ...
(15:41:23) (@OPU|hacker) OK OPU|xfir, I know you want to get out of your dealings with OPU.
(15:41:34) (+Eddy-B) trouble TH300 ?
(15:41:55) (+TH300) no, but just noticed that something withe forum is wrong
(15:42:08) (@OPU|xfir) I never said I did. Who told you that or how did your mind misconstrew it?
(15:42:41) (+zigzagjoe) ...
(15:42:54) (@OPU|hacker) i can sense that you want to get out
(15:43:02) (@OPU|hacker) you don't want to renew the domain, etc etc
(15:43:04) (@OPU|xfir) I can sense you want me out.
(15:43:05) (@OPU|Leviathan^) he dosnt tho
(15:43:09) (@OPU|Leviathan^) he said that y'day
(15:43:13) (@OPU|xfir) Dude! I renewed the domain!
(15:43:23) (@OPU|hacker) but you almost didn't want to
(15:43:27) (@OPU|Leviathan^) he likes his forum, just not just same apeal as it did.
(15:43:29) (@OPU|hacker) like you questioned whether we should
(15:43:31) (@OPU|hacker) renew
(15:43:50) (@OPU|xfir) Well, that was because I didn't have any money
(15:44:32) (@OPU|xfir) and I still don't. But I renewed it.
(15:44:48) (@OPU|hacker) then why do you sometimes slam this place?
(15:44:53) (@OPU|hacker) "OP2 is dying"
(15:44:56) (@OPU|hacker) "You people are hopeless"
(15:45:08) (@OPU|xfir) Well, first of all,
(15:45:15) (@OPU|xfir) How much pressure are you under?
(15:45:23) (@OPU|hacker) not terribly much
(15:46:24) (@OPU|xfir) Precisely. How much do you think I'm under?
(15:46:54) (+Eddy-B) brb
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(15:47:13) (@OPU|hacker) a bit, cuz of school etc
(15:47:29) (@OPU|Leviathan^) none, u live the high life?
(15:47:33) (@OPU|xfir) bit? No no no.. a f*** load
(15:47:34) (@OPU|Hooman) ... wait until you hit university
(15:47:38) (+zigzagjoe) ...
(15:47:52) (@OPU|xfir) high life? I'm nearly bankrupt
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(15:48:17) (@OPU|xfir) Thus sometimes you tend to over do certain situations.
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(15:48:35) (@OPU|xfir) Things not meeting expectations tend to explode
(15:48:41) (@OPU|xfir) kevin had the same problem
(15:49:08) (@OPU|xfir) Course he was more meticulous in his ways
(15:49:28) (@OPU|xfir) (gah that pizza is making me sick)
(15:50:05) (@OPU|xfir) My question for you is why am I so bad you must leave me out of the loop?
(15:50:29) (@OPU|hacker) if we want to add forums, you say no.
(15:50:35) (@OPU|hacker) if we want to add someone as admin, you say no.
(15:50:46) (@OPU|hacker) if we want to do anything with forums, you say no
(15:50:56) (@OPU|xfir) Well, look at it this way: I can justify the confusion caused by it to see the benefit of it.
(15:51:01) (@OPU|hacker) and we don't ask a lot of you.
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(15:51:25) (@OPU|xfir) can't*
(15:51:31) (@OPU|Leviathan^) rite
(15:51:37) (@OPU|Leviathan^) thats ur intrests
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(15:51:57) (@OPU|xfir) The thing is, you tend to overlook the situation. There are things about it you don't realize
(15:52:06) (@OPU|Leviathan^) probly.
(15:52:27) (@OPU|hacker) like ?
(15:52:27) (@OPU|xfir) I try to look at it from different angles to see if it would really benefit.
(15:52:35) (@OPU|xfir) and Lev, take a side and stick to it.
(15:52:50) (@OPU|hacker) what would you know about OPU? you do not even participate in OPU. Thus, you can't know what we need / don't need.
(15:52:53) (@OPU|hacker) You are just the webhost.
(15:52:59) (@OPU|hacker) you aren't involved
(15:53:04) (@OPU|xfir) Adding more admins can really screw stuff up. Look at Kiler's regime.
(15:53:24) (@OPU|xfir) Right. Now tell me why I'm not involved.
(15:53:39) (@OPU|Leviathan^) read up ^
(15:53:57) (@OPU|xfir) You tend to leave me out, which is why I'm not involved.
(15:54:13) (@OPU|xfir) You plan reunions and tell me the day it happens.
(15:54:44) (@OPU|hacker) we ask you "Want to play OP2?" you never do
(15:54:56) (@OPU|hacker) that's part of being involved
(15:54:57) (@OPU|Leviathan^) lol hacker thats ilrelvent
(15:55:11) (@OPU|Hooman) ... I never play either
(15:55:14) (@OPU|xfir) lol, yea
(15:55:21) (@OPU|Hooman) just a thought
(15:55:40) (@OPU|Hooman) Anyways, is all this really necessary?
(15:58:08) (@OPU|Leviathan^) 'im a small and pety man in many ways, small and pety' - seymore skiner
(15:58:35) (@OPU|Leviathan^) well well well
(15:59:27) (@OPU|xfir) If you want me to leave I'm taking everything with me.
(15:59:41) (@OPU|Leviathan^) whats that then?
(15:59:56) (@OPU|xfir) OPU hosting, the forum, all that
(15:59:57) (@OPU|Leviathan^) everything?
(15:59:59) (@OPU|Leviathan^) ah
(16:00:04) (@OPU|Leviathan^) were move 2 a new domain
(16:00:11) (@OPU|xfir) I'm not going to hand over the database.
(16:00:15) (@OPU|Leviathan^) ok
(16:00:19) (@OPU|Leviathan^)
(16:00:23) (@OPU|Leviathan^) harsh
(16:00:35) (@OPU|Leviathan^) neo, u are the one
((16:13:09) (+TH300) can someone please tell me what exactly happend to the forum? it gives me an error now.
(16:13:17) (@OPU|Leviathan^) wait TH300
(16:13:19) (@OPU|Leviathan^) we are moveing it
(16:13:22) (@OPU|Leviathan^) xfir took it down
(16:13:26) (@OPU|Leviathan^) so we moveing it
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(16:19:41) (@OPU|Leviathan^) new site coming
(16:19:52) (@OPU|Leviathan^) at
www.outpostuniverse.net...
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