5p, Srv, 'dangerzone'

[evecolonycamander]

Edit: ECC, what you basically just said was "I made random edits to the sheets and OP2 crashed."  That's really not helpful in debugging unmodded OP2.

No the thors unit WILL crash the game if it has to shoot farther then 12 squares. other units do not do that they an shoot at any distance. they will lose accuracy tho the farther the target is

[Hidiot]

Sirbomber, I deduced that Flashy uses a check to prevent mining beacons from appearing on inaccessible cell types. But mining beacons still appear on top of inaccessible cliffs.

Why I'd suggest that for all maps? Um... the bulldozer is the only reason really. So, yeah, I admit to the stupidity of the second part.

[Sirbomber]

Sirbomber, I deduced that Flashy uses a check to prevent mining beacons from appearing on inaccessible cell types. But mining beacons still appear on top of inaccessible cliffs.

Ah.  That would be a good reason then.

And ECC, I'm not debating that having the Thor's Hammer shoot really far will make OP2 crash (whether it really does or not is irrelevant).  But you're arguing that this may be the reason Flashy's map crashes, while I'm telling you it's unlikely since he hasn't modified the range of the Thor's Hammer.

[Flashy]

I deduced that Flashy uses a check to prevent mining beacons from appearing on inaccessible cell types.

Yes, it checks if a robo miner can build on at least one of the 2 possible positions. And I'll work on the inaccessible terrain marking. I already marked a few mountains and opened some up.

[Hidiot]

In case you want to be thorough, you might want to keep in mind that the bulldozed adjunct tiles also need to avoid impassible terrain.

[Flashy]

Yes, it works that way

[Zhall]

Its fricken hard, or im a nub lol Me and ECC have tried it about 4 times... cant get metals production up enough

[evecolonycamander]

no its easy for me. when i focus of coarse.

[Flashy]

cant get metals production up enough

Version 0.9 had more ore. But hidiot complained about the huge amount of 3 bars on the map, so it's no longer possible to find 5 to 8 3bars.

[Hidiot]

Yeah, and your answer was to make very few 2-bars and lots of 1-bars.

[Sirbomber]

If I've learned anything from Highlander_H over the years, it's that you shouldn't underestimate the value of lots of 1-bar mines.

Still, it would be nice to have at least some decent mines.

[Flashy]

Yeah, and your answer was to make very few 2-bars and lots of 1-bars.

Lots? the number of mine beacons is very low.

Still, it would be nice to have at least some decent mines.

And what about the 0-2 3 bars that can now be found?

[evecolonycamander]

the only 2-3 bar mines i can find are located next to a light tower.out of all of those only one of them can i build a colony at. it is a 3 bar mine. the colony MUST stay small and everything is restricted there

[Flashy]

Post 1)
The chance of that b(e)acon of getting a 3 bar mine is 20%
Post 2)
Finally,  version 0.15 is finished. It has a children evac code modification so the children et gets spawned over and over again if it's destroyed, mountain cells are corrected, blight is on double speed, a little number of fixed beacons are placed, and disasters are cumulative(start weak and grow over time. Of cause, there's a maximum). Last but not least, the third AI base works. I don't recommend destroying it since it doesn't attack, it is capable of rebuilding the main base and shortens the time until the children et is build.

[evecolonycamander]

but the blight can still be slowed down back to its original speed(or slower) when you stop at a Light tower?

[Flashy]

That still works in the same way.

[evecolonycamander]

that is good. is there going to be any new tech for this map? are you doing a storyline? or did you give up on that?

[Flashy]

Post 1)
Im currently busy with lop's map, but there won't be new techs.
~~~~~~~~~
Post 2)
Er... Maybe i'll add new techs despite what i've said But only the wall upgrades from Survtech. The Blight is fast so the player needs something to counteract it. I just have to check if my version of the "give tech to everyone" code works exactly like the original

[Sirbomber]

Code: [Select]

// -----------------------------------------------------------------------
// Misc. Functions
// -----------------------------------------------------------------------

void SetupWallTech()
{
    // Mark off the "Wall HP Enabler" tech for all players
    for (short i = 0; i < TethysGame::NoPlayers(); i++)
    {
        Player[i].MarkResearchComplete(12002);
    }

    // Create research triggers to share the wall HP techs
    MicWall = CreateResearchTrigger( 1, 1, 8403, -1, "ShareMicWallTech");
    LavWall = CreateResearchTrigger( 1, 1, 5702, -1, "ShareLavWallTech");

}

SCRIPT_API void ShareMicWallTech()
{
    short i, x;

    for (i = 0; i < TethysGame::NoPlayers(); i++)
    {
        // Find out which player actually researched the tech
        if (Player[i].HasTechnology(8403) )
        {
            x = i;
        }
    }

    for (i = 0; i < TethysGame::NoPlayers(); i++)
    {
        // For everyone else, send a message indicating they're getting the tech and mark it off
        if (i != x)
        {
            TethysGame::AddMessage( -1, -1, "Receiving Microbe Wall upgrade...", i, sndLab_3);
            Player[i].MarkResearchComplete(8403);
        }

        // For the player who researched it, notify them they're being forced to share the tech
        else
        {
            TethysGame::AddMessage( -1, -1, "Transmitting Microbe Wall upgrade...", x, sndLab_3);
        }
    }

    MicWall.Destroy();
}

SCRIPT_API void ShareLavWallTech()
{
    short i, x;

    for (i = 0; i < TethysGame::NoPlayers(); i++)
    {
        // Find out which player actually researched the tech
        if (Player[i].HasTechnology(5702) )
        {
            x = i;
        }

        // For everyone else, send a message indicating they're getting the tech and mark it off
        if (i != x)
        {
            TethysGame::AddMessage( -1, -1, "Receiving Lava Wall upgrade...", i, sndLab_3);
            Player[i].MarkResearchComplete(5702);
        }

        // For the player who researched it, notify them they're being forced to share the tech
        else
        {
            TethysGame::AddMessage( -1, -1, "Transmitting Lava Wall upgrade...", x, sndLab_3);
        }
    }

    LavWall.Destroy();
}   // end of SetupWallTech and sub-functions

[Flashy]

thanks, now i don't have to write it myself

EDIT: maybe it would be good to mark the research for everyone but send the message only if the player has the right colony? A Plymouth player could be confused because of "Receiving Microbe Wall upgrade..."

[Sirbomber]

Well, they kinda need to know that somebody got it...

[Flashy]

What about
"Eden got a microbe wall upgrade"
for plymouth
and
"Plymouth got a lava wall upgrade"
for eden

[Hidiot]

Considering your skills at writing code, Flashy, some simple checks (ifs) shouldn't be hard to add.

To be precise, make an if (Player.IsEden()) before each "receiving... Wall upgrade".

[Flashy]

I just wanted to ask before i alter the code

[Sirbomber]

No.  I thought you were giving Microbe Walls to Plymouth anyways?