Author Topic: Minesweeper (Read 4909 times)

Spikerocks101 · « **on:** April 03, 2010, 08:58:41 AM »

Well, I was playing Minesweeper, and I swear, the games fixed. Here some of my rounds:

First one, I almost won, but then these 2 spaces in the bottom left. One was a mine, one was not. For crying out loud, I guessed the wrong space...

Next won, I lost on my first hit...

And my third game, I got screwed with the guessing (5/19 chance there was a mine >_>), and I lost. Also, look at the bottom right, crazy how many 4's and 5's there were in a line. It was tougher then my first game for sure.

I think I game going to play Hearts for now on...

CK9 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:25:54 PM »

at least you didn't cheat by restarting the same game

Arklon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:36:24 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs

TH300 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:56:52 PM »

Wow, the appearance of that game changed a lot since win95... Yea, I remember, it can be mean at times. You should just be patient and retry until you win. Doesn't take that long.

Now you made me wanna play it too.

Freeza-CII · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2010, 02:21:19 PM »

the numbers as always the clue.

Hooman · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2010, 03:02:56 PM »

Lol. Awesome YouTube video.

I once made a VB program to play minesweeper. It managed to beat all difficulty levels in 1-2 seconds. It usually took a bit longer on hard though.

It was particularly smart, just sent click messages to the board assuming some grid offset and spacing, then checked screen colors for the numbers, since each number was a unique color. I believe there was a certain pixel I found that was set for each digit, so I didn't have to scan more than 1 pixel per cell.

Using it's own scanned copy of the board, it just used fairly simple logic to determine where all the obvious mines were. It occasionally got stuck, such as in cases like the first game where you have no way of knowing. In that case, it would either wait for you to click, or you could set it to guess on it's own.

I doubt it'd work with the new version though, since the board scanning depended quite heavily on the graphical layout, which has since changed from the Window 95 days.

Edit: Btw, to avoid to heartbreaker endings, I usually started each game by clicking each of the corner cells. You're much less likely to get caught in an impossible situation if the corner cells are already dealt with.

Hidiot · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2010, 03:03:12 PM »

Heh, my best score on minesweeper is of 111 under XP's largest standard size.

Freeza points out the obvious: the numbers tell you just how many mines are around that specific point. Use that and you can find yourself finishing as often as set-ups without annoying small spots of pure chance come up.

CK9 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2010, 05:48:50 PM »

my best time was 1 second on each difficulty setting...did I mention there also used to be a clock-freeze cheat?

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 15, 2010, 01:23:33 AM »

Another crappy game. Look at the very bottom middle, I was freaking stuck. Out of the 3 remaining spaces, 1 was a mine. I would have beaten my best time too.

evecolonycamander · « **Reply #9 on:** April 15, 2010, 08:17:12 AM »

Wow, sucks to be you. i used to play this a lot and never lost when it came to the last 3

Sl0vi · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2010, 05:00:50 PM »

hmm.. since when is it possible to lose on the first hit in minesweeper? It's never the first one...

Kayedon · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2010, 05:52:05 PM »

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hmm.. since when is it possible to lose on the first hit in minesweeper? It's never the first one...

It has and always will be possible. The map is made before you click, so if you're extremely unlucky...

Sl0vi · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2010, 06:07:42 PM »

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hmm.. since when is it possible to lose on the first hit in minesweeper? It's never the first one...
It has and always will be possible. The map is made before you click, so if you're extremely unlucky...

meh.. I googled it, and it seems that it's a change in minesweeper for vista. XP and earlier, the game treats the square as if no mine is there, even if there is one on the first click.

Apparently someone even reverse engineered the game

http://www.techuser.net/mineclick.html

Kayedon · « **Reply #13 on:** April 19, 2010, 10:54:03 PM »

Hmm. I must never have noticed (or cared) then.

My apologies.

Hooman · « **Reply #14 on:** April 19, 2010, 11:16:04 PM »

You never hit a bomb on the first click. I always just assumed the game board wasn't generated until the first click.

Hidiot · « **Reply #15 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:47:04 AM »

I'm pretty sure it has happened to me, hitting a mine on my first click.

Kayedon · « **Reply #16 on:** April 20, 2010, 11:55:22 AM »

As Sl0vi pointed out through some research, apparently Microshaft made that possible in Vista and 7.

CK9 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:35:27 PM »

Yea, but I doubt the accuracy of his sources. A couple nights back I played minesweeper on my XP computer, got blown up on first click.

Kayedon · « **Reply #18 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:19:41 PM »

Do your own research then. (:

Spikerocks101 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2010, 12:11:20 AM »

well, if you play on a maxed out board (custom game), you will quickly see that they do make sure it works around you. try it, since i am a lazy typer.

Edit: Oh, and also, I have been playing some other games now more, like www.puzzle-nurikabe.com and www.freetetris.org (highest score was 34,700 my friend got 36,285)

CK9 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 21, 2010, 01:40:27 AM »

This weekend (when I'm at my XP computer) I'll start up a few games and show the ones that I get 1-click explodes

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Author Topic: Minesweeper (Read 4909 times)