Cleaning Up The Wiki, Part 5723985

[Sirbomber]

Here's the list of what needs to be done.

Notice how much of it is in the "delete it" section.  For those taking notes, that's a not-so-subtle clue that the reason the old Wiki was disabled was because everyone went around posting whatever garbage they wanted to it.  Let's not have that happen again.

Anyways, if somebody will let me I'll make the changes and we can get this thing up and running again.

Page || Reason to delete

Definitely not needed:
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/4_Player_Zone_Control || empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/All_Mines || Useless
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/APM_Recorder || We don't care about APM here
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Build_A_Mine || Who the heck doesn't know how to build a mine?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Campaigns || Who the heck doesn't know what a campaign is?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cbcm01.map || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cds1.dll || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Ces1.dll || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cm02.map || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Colony_Games || STOP EXPLAINING GAME TYPES
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Colors || WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT?!
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cps1.dll || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DataStructure_NetworkPacket || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DataStruct...Transformations || Empty
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Data_Internal_Function_Index || Obsolete, apparently.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Data_TerrainTypes || Mostly empty.  Some info incorrect?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Downloads || Empty.  Could redirect to website download page.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Dtek_p.txt || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Eden01.map || Empty.
Novella pages || We've already got all chapters from both stories together on two pages.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Eden_Tech_Tree_High || Obsolete build order.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Editing_Maps || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Events_basics || Mostly empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/FileFormat_Archive_VOL || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/FileFormat_Map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Forum_Titles || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Four_Player_Maps || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Get_Voice_on_IRC || Old data.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld01.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld03 || Mostly empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld05 || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld06.map || Mostly empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hacking_DLL%27s || We've evolved beyong hex editing old DLLs.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hex_Workshop || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hotkeys || Pointless AND bad advice.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/How_To_Make_A_New_Page || If you don't know how, don't make a new page.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Known_bugs || Ancient history.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Land_Rush || STOP DESCRIBING GAME TYPES.  If you do, add more info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Luna || WHY IS THERE A STARCRAFT MAP HERE?!
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Map_List || This data already exists elsewhere, more organized
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Mapper_Code_Templates || If Mapper3 is coming out, this will be obsolete.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Maps.vol || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Maps03.vol || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Microwave/Ore/Armor || MIC ORE ARM
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Mission01 || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Moogle%27s_Ore_Route_Code || We know how Cargo Trucks work.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Mooglecode.htm || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Natfix || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/OP2_Coding_Contest || Ancient history.  Maybe we should revive it...?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Old_Players_List || Just Lev whining about "the good old days."
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Op2dl_dev || Point...?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Open_Source_as_a_Style || Stupid idea proposed by a stupid person.
All OPU_XX.map pages || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_File_List || Not enough useful info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_...age_Translation || Not enough useful info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_Update || Out-of-date.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_MIA || Old project.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_Renegades_old_news || Purpose?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_Wa...choose_a_planet || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Pie_Chart || Just a list of irrelevant videos.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Playing_Multiplayer_Games || LEARN TO PLAY
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Plymouth || Not enough info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Plymouth_Tech_Tree_High || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/QuakeNet_Bot || QuakeNet is old news.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Recording_Games || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Renegade || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Requested_Articles || Useless.  This would belong elsewhere anyways.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/ResourceEvent || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Scripter_Commands || Scripter no longer available?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Scripter_manual || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Smelter || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Some_Combat_Considerations || Point?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Source_Code || No actual code...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Spaceport2 || Already exists elsewhere.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Submitting_Source || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Backstab || Why are we explaining this?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Build_Order || Ancient.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cde1.dll || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cm03.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Colony_Builder || Not enough useful info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Colony_Wars || Old project.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cps2.dll || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DamagedEvent || Empty.  But why have I never heard of these "events" before...?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Data_UnitI...OPs_and_Offsets || Needs info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Deploying_Structures || LEARN TO PLAY
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Donations || Doesn't belong here.  Old anyways.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Dtek_e.txt || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Eden02.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Eden_Structure_Reference || Dead link.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Eden_Vehicle_Reference || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Forum_Layout || No.  Just no.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Forums_To_Post_On || see above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Gamers_List || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Greenhills || Mostly empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Greenworld_Tileset_Source || Point?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld02 || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld03.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld05.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hamachi || Already on site.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Ice_Plains || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/IRC || Already on site.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Jobs || Ancient.  Doesn't belong on a wiki anyways.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Links || Seriously?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Mapper_Tips | Common sense, people.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Maps01.vol || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Maps04.vol || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Moogle%27s...l_Building_Code || Point?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Moogle_Ai_wall_building_code || Redirects to above...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Multiplayer_Ethics || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/New_Terra | "New Terra means New Earth" NOWAI
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/OPU_IRC_Setups || Already exists.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Op2dl_small || Who cares?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_Folder || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_Online_Manual || Should redirect to download link.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_Update_1.5 || Sparse.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Paper_Scissor_Rock || Uhhhh...?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Plains_%26_Passes || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Plymouth_Structure_Reference || Dead link.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/PointEvent || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Problems_and_Suggestions || Not on a wiki.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Quick_Guid...layer_Outpost_2 || Lame tutorial.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Requests_for_Deletion || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/ResearchEvent || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Ridge_%26_Siege_Warfare || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Screenshot_Utility || It's called "Print Screen"
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Space_Race || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Spacerace || Useless blurb only.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Basictek.txt || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Blank_Tileset || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Boptronic || Doesn't belong on our wiki.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Buildigns || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Campaign || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cdp1.dll || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cep1.dll || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cm01.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cm04.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Colony_Game || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Color%27s || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Cpp1.dll || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Desktop_Themes || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Dtek_m.txt || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Eden_Tech_Tree_Full || We have graphical versions elsewhere.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Editing_DLL_Info || No need to hex edit anymore.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/FAQ || ...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Forum_Message || ...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Greenworld || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld02.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld04.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Grnwld06 || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Help_a_Project || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hidden_Valley || Needs more info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hosts_File || Pointless and outdated anyways.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/How_To_Use_Natfix || Natfix is outdated.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/IRC_Rules || On the forum.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Installing_Outpost_1 || Should redirect to the website.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/LostLinks || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Main.cpp || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Making_Iceworld_Maps || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Map_Editing || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Maps || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Maps02.vol || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Moogle%27s...t_Building_Code || Stupid.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Moogle_Code || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Newsletter_6 || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/OPU_IRC_Client || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/OPU_Tool || Ancient.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Old_Clan_List || Who cares?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Op2dl_complete || If you want it, go to the website and get it.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_Introduction || Seriously, the wiki isn't a dumping ground for tutorials.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_Modding || Useless.  "You can make a map!" Great.  How?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2_Timeline || Not needed.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_Re...es_News_Archive || Pointless?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_Walkthrough_1.5 || Doesn't belong here.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Pallet_Files || Dead link.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Pie || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Ply01.map || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Plymouth_Icons || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Plymouth_Tech_Tree_Full || Should link to a graphical version...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Port_Forwarding || This info is bad, and there are sites dedicated to this.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/RectEvent || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Requests_for_Protect || Why?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Sheets.vol || Sparse.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Sound.vol || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Story.vol || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Survivor || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Tales_From_New_Terra || Not worthy of its own page.
OP2 Tutorial mission guides || RTFM
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Turtling || Again, why are we describing basic RTS terms?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/VOLExtractor || Put it on a "Tools" page.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Victory_Condition || Use common sense.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Voices.vol || Mostly empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Wanted_Projects || You want it?  Do it yourself.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Zone_Control || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Tutorails || Redirects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Using_Advanced_Edit || Does current version of Mapper even HAVE this?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Video || Useless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Website || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/TethysGame || Pointless.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Tokamak || Already exists.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Tutorials || Already available in-game.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/VOLCreator || Again, should go on a "tools" page.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Vehicles || Point?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Videos || I think some other page redirects here, but pointless anyways.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Wel0002 || Empty.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Wells || Useless.

Could be useful if...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DataStructure_UnitInfo || More info, merge with other topics?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Making_Maps || Merge it with some other tutorial page?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Map_Archive || Update to include new maps when appropriate.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/NonExportedEnums.h || Sparse.  Merge with similar topics?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DataStructure_Player || Merge with other data structure info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DataStructure_Triggers || More info, merge with other stuff.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/EMP || More info?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/FileFormat_SavedGame || More info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Groups.h || More info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/MissionScanner || Stick it on a "tools" page?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost_2 || Needs work.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Scenarios || Needs work.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Supernova || Needs more info.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/DataStructure_Unit || More info/merge.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Data_IWndVtbl || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Data_UnitVtblAddresses || See above.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Mapper || Should be updated if/when Mapper3 is released.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Multiplayer_Terminology || Needs to be updated.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Outpost2_EXE_Patches || More info needed.  Is this relevant to making OP2Mod DLLs?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Projects || Needs to be updated and only have relevant projects.
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/VOL_Files || Needs more info.

Probably not needed:
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Buildings || Purpose?
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/BaseData || Obsolete due to Coding 101 Tutorials
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/ESG || Sparse.
All map/DLL pages. || Not very useful as it is.  Maybe with work though...
http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/SurvivorLaCorr (all maps really) || Do individual maps really need pages?

[CK9]

lol, love some of the comments.  Personally, I think we need to list out what needs to be on an OUF wiki, build the pages 1 by 1, delete the old pages, and put in the new ones.

edit: and by build 1 by 1, I mean fully complete one page before working on a new one.

[TH300]

Hold on... Weren't there plans (by Blackbox) to integrate the wiki with the main site? If that is the case, we may have to rewrite everything and there is no point in cleaning up the old wiki.

Anyways, what CK9 says is right: first lets make a list of what info shall be there, then put the articles. Here's some:

- Strategy guides | definetely useful for all new players

- Complete Unit reference | yes, there is a help file, but that is so old, some people cannot open it on modern systems

- List of maps | I want to know what a map looks like before playing it

- everything related to hacking op2 and creation of new content | better than having people search for it on the forums

- Game Types | oh yes, for newbies these can be helpful. We could possibly link to maps for specific game types or to strategies

- bugs in op2 | always good to know

Well, all of this should be either on the site or on the wiki.

[evecolonycamander]

Holy [word withheld]! you are planing to do that much? oh well i do have Eve to do so i guess its not that much

[AmIMeYet]

Wow, you've been busy, Sirbomber!

We might want to put everything up on the wiki Leviathan set up for us a while back so we can figure out a nicely organized layout before overwriting what's on this wiki. Then we can Export everything from newwiki and Import that to our wiki.

[Sirbomber]

Uh, all I'm suggesting is we get rid of a boatload of useless pages we don't need.  It's not much, but it's a step in the right direction.

[Highlander]

My take on some of the "useless" stuff B)

Anyways, nice effort for going through it all Sirbomber (thumbsup)




- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Hotkeys || Pointless AND bad advice.
(This list isn't very good, but we should include a list of hotkeys and how to use them)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Known_bugs || Ancient history.
(Not a complete list. Old bugs are currently becoming so old, new players don't know about them - I suggest we rewrite and complete the list of bugs and glitches)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Old_Players_List || Just Lev whining about "the good old days." (I would like to see a bigger and better version of this, it's nice for some of the old timers to look back to - On the other hand it is probably a futile process since so many names and details around them has been lost)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Pie_Chart || Just a list of irrelevant videos.
(Perhaps not too relevant these days, though I still suggest we keep these somewhere rather than simply delete them)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Playing_Multiplayer_Games || LEARN TO PLAY
(Update and improve. Newcomers should have a decent guide to refer to instead of being yelled at in games for messing things up. If they read it is another matter i suppose)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Some_Combat_Considerations || Point?
(Not known by everybody. Nice to have written somewhere)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Build_Order || Ancient.
(Ancient, but probably forgotten by many current players. Would be good to have a rewrite)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Deploying_Structures || LEARN TO PLAY
(Perhaps known to most people. But might still fit in somewhere if we're gonna describe the game in detail)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Multiplayer_Ethics || Useless.
(A basic list of what we expect players to follow should be found somewhere. Rewrite and update?)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Quick_Guid...layer_Outpost_2 || Lame tutorial.
(Could be better and perhaps fitted in with other things. Still good to have somewhere though)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Desktop_Themes || Pointless.
(People might still want these for nostalgic reasons. One should be able to find them somewhere on opu site)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Old_Clan_List || Who cares?
(Again nostalgic reasons. Easiest to do here is to copy the old info from kevins old site - we have that stored somewhere)

- http://wiki.outpostuniverse.net/Pie || Useless.
(Doesn't say anything about Pie, but this is a pretty good guide on how to play a no mark game - probably belongs under some form of strategy page)  

[CK9]

just a note on the old clan list:

when I first put it together, I had links to what remained of the sites of the clans.  It was my intention for any stretegies, ideas, ect. to be fully viewable.

[BlackBox]

We might want to put everything up on the wiki Leviathan set up for us a while back so we can figure out a nicely organized layout before overwriting what's on this wiki. Then we can Export everything from newwiki and Import that to our wiki.

Lev is no longer associated with this community and his wiki should not be used (we do not control that domain nor do we have any kind of access to the database which would be necessary to export them).

About integrating the wiki -- perhaps we could just make the main site a wiki itself (but with a skin that looks like a real website, not a wiki), thoughts?

[Sirbomber]

I thought we already decided not to do that.

[AmIMeYet]

Lev is no longer associated with this community and his wiki should not be used (we do not control that domain nor do we have any kind of access to the database which would be necessary to export them).

I know Lev is no longer associated, but it doesn't mean we can't use the wiki he set up. We don't need access to a database because MediaWiki has a nice export page.

Of course, we could always just create another wiki on these servers, but why bother? ..Ok, maybe I'm just not paranoid enough..

[TH300]

About integrating the wiki -- perhaps we could just make the main site a wiki itself (but with a skin that looks like a real website, not a wiki), thoughts?

I am for it. At least that would solve the question of what to put on the main site and what to put on the wiki. - have everything on the main site. that is simple and works.