Author Topic: Cheat Discussion (Read 10820 times)

Sirbomber · « **on:** February 21, 2006, 07:51:49 PM »

Okay, do we really need to be censor nazis about this? We can't USE the cheats anymore, why can't we TALK about them either? Knowing what they are won't help or hurt anybody!

spirit1flyer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:55:25 PM »

I agree
Besides anyone with half an effort can go look on gamespy or any other one and get them there

thablkpanda · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:55:37 PM »

Skeetnugget.

Yeah, we should be able to talk about Dan's dog without getting kicked...

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[ 20:48:02 ] [ Arklon ] Dan's bike could
[ 20:48:04 ] [ Arklon ] Dan's bike could backfire
[ 20:48:04 ] [ @tbp|bostonlegal ] kk i gotta get a shower
[ 20:48:06 ] [ @Sirbomber ] May I repeat myself
[ 20:48:08 ] [ @tbp|bostonlegal ] go play in the lobby kiddos
[ 20:48:12 ] [ @Sirbomber ] Dan's dog can suck it.
[ 20:48:14 ] [ Arklon ] Dan's bike could backfire more
[ 20:48:14 ] · · Kicks : Arklon was kicked from #outpost2 by [ OPU|Bot ] : [ Cheat detected ]
[ 20:48:16 ] · · Joins : Arklon [ ~op2irc@cpe-071-071-164-060.carolina.res.rr.com ]
[ 20:48:16 ] [ @tbp|bostonlegal ] lol
[ 20:48:17 ] [ Arklon ] and done
[ 20:48:19 ] [ +Zanco` ] lol. But who he heck is Dan? did the op2 maker decided to pick a random name? or was it a programer's one?
[ 20:48:20 ] [ @Sirbomber ] Stupid bot
[ 20:48:25 ] [ @Sirbomber ] WE CAN'T CHEAT ANYMORE
[ 20:48:25 ] [ @tbp|bostonlegal ] OP2 Programmer
[ 20:48:26 ] [ Arklon ] Dan Duncalf
[ 20:48:27 ] [ Arklon ] lead programmer
[ 20:48:28 ] [ @tbp|bostonlegal ] indeed.

It continued for a while after and before that, the constant f***ing with the bot. But I digress, we can't cheat, so why not talk about it?

-Chris

Stormy · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:03:06 PM »

I agree....

instigator · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:40:58 PM »

LOL i think its hilarious! yeah well we should be able to talk about it. but the bot stays. thats just the funniest thing on there. (Cheat detected) ROFL

Leviathan · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:12:50 AM »

post the cheats on the wiki by all means.

actualy we need to provide a exe which has the cheats enabled so u can use them for single player if u wanted.

TH300 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:16:46 AM »

so that everyone can play cheated single.

Its probably just me, but I don't feel right, when beating a game only with cheats. You are taking the fun out of op2 for many people.
Think about it! There are probably people who want by all means avoid knowing the cheats, and then they read over them n irc without prior warning. Thats not fair.

Highlander · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:31:05 AM »

Since the cheats has been disabled, we should be able to talk about them. Makes no sense otherwise.

And so what if people find out/read the cheats. They still have to type them in to use them. And that would be the individuals choice. You Can't really say they have been forced to use it

TH300 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:54:08 AM »

They have been forced to know them. and most people - if they know how to do something, they do it. They don't think about whether its good or bad. I also once cheated in another game, because I knew the cheats. It took me really long to learn how to play without cheats, because cheating had became normal to me.

And think about someone putting e.g. Renegades on top of a cheats-enabled version of Outpost2. Whereas Renegades is very fun without cheating, some people will never know, because they are used to cheat their way through.

Sirbomber · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2006, 08:16:30 AM »

Well, if they never want to get good at OP2, that's their choice.

Highlander · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2006, 08:35:05 AM »

Heh, I know the cheats at least the Dan codes. I've used them once to see if they really worked.

Also, on WON I had a cheat program that could give me 10k of both common and rare ore. I only used that once aswell to see if it worked.

So, either I'm a special case, or people make their own judgements on how they want to do things. If they want to cheat to beat the game, it's their choice, but it will be an empty victory.

Eddy-B · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2006, 09:42:08 AM »

Talking isn't getting you (us) anywhere...
I'm not saying it should be forbidden (i voted "no"), i just want to make you understand it's no USE talking about it, since no one will restore the cheats.
It's okay to tell people "oh, there used to be cheats, long time ago, with the original Dynamix version." but they won't be able to play multiplayer with it, coz every multi-player must have the same version. It would be kinda unfair if one person can activate the cheats and another can't. If people want cheats for single-player games, then they can do so using the standard version (1.2.7 i think?) that Dynamix released. But, as with any cheat; what fun is a game if you can't play it the way it should be played ? (reason why i disabled all other forms of 'cheating' on Renegades).

Keeping people ignorent about the cheats avoid having to answer lots of questions (and also avoids discussions like this one).

Vexhare · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2006, 10:59:04 AM »

Well I think that we need to have the information written down somewhere and catalogued, just because its a part of the Oupost 2 history... and seeing how as we are the last remaining vestibule of Outpost 2 people we might want to keep everything intact.

Sirbomber · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:23:51 AM »

My point is, we should be able to say what they actually are without the bot kicking us for it. If cheats don't work the bot shouldn't go CHEAT DETECTED KILL ALL KILL ALL when we talk about them.

Leviathan · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:27:32 AM »

that script was added to the bot ages ago, its just not been removed

Sirbomber · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:31:36 AM »

Then can we remove it?
Hmm... I still need to find something to compare this to...

Eddy-B · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:58:21 AM »

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My point is, we should be able to say what they actually are without the bot kicking us for it. If cheats don't work the bot shouldn't go CHEAT DETECTED KILL ALL KILL ALL when we talk about them.

¿ What ?

Sl0vi · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2006, 12:04:18 PM »

Censorship in general is bad, and people have a choice if they want to use them or not. And they are also disabled in the newer versions, which means no one can use them in multiplayer. So at the moment, I see no valid reason why it should be banned mentioning them.

TH300 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:02:33 PM »

But why, WHY, do you want to talk about the cheats?? what do you gain?

Leviathan · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:04:33 PM »

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Then can we remove it?
Hmm... I still need to find something to compare this to...

yea i dont c y not.

we can just have it changed so the bot messages you saying 'Cheaters suck

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spirit1flyer · « **Reply #20 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:05:24 PM »

I was wondering the same thing, But its OP2 history and I don't even know the cheats, Yet I could go find them

TH300 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 22, 2006, 03:19:38 PM »

its probably ok, if someone puts them on the wiki. but only in spoiler style, i.e. you have to select the text in order to read it.
Its still not ok, nor is it necessary to mention them in an irc channel. privmsg is probably ok though.

Sirbomber · « **Reply #22 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:02:57 PM »

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But why, WHY, do you want to talk about the cheats?? what do you gain?

NOTHING! That's the POINT!
Why are you against it so much!?

thablkpanda · « **Reply #23 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:05:54 PM »

I - personally have little or no time for real playing anymore, and I was attempting Renegades yesterday and all reunion long (off and on) and I had little or no success. Mainly due to my impatience and my keen eye for picking the spot to infiltrate the base that will most likely get me blown the hell up.

I'd love the SP cheats activated, just give me time to enjoy OP2, and own the CPU superquick.

That's all I'm saying. And someone asked why talk about them - Why not I think is a better question. Why should we not be able to talk about them?

-Chris

Sl0vi · « **Reply #24 on:** February 22, 2006, 04:56:41 PM »

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But why, WHY, do you want to talk about the cheats?? what do you gain?

A little bit more freedom of speech actually. That is about it.

News:

Poll

Should we be able to talk about the non-functional cheats?

Author Topic: Cheat Discussion (Read 10820 times)