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Title: Outpost The Movie
Post by: selfdestruct on February 16, 2004, 11:04:42 PM
considering the idea for the car and mass outpost dreams of what the car is going to look like in outpost style. I have created in my head and some  script  outpost the movie, This will not i repeat not be a chease budjet film, i have decided to take the first oupost 1 blend into the second and show some of 3 and leave us the fans sastisfied and other non outpost fans the intoxicating feel of what this game was all about, the real task lies ahead in making it the most releastic story possible that takes or wonderful 2d world and changing it to 3d film that can bounce back and forth from the colinsits view, the commnder, the syban computer system ,the entire land scape ,to the  vehicles etc and make one extreme move that will be put into imortilization with clasics like star wars lord of the rings, back to the future, rocky ,etc but will even rivel these and be on top as the most blown away mouth droping action/drama/science fiction jorney of all time. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on February 16, 2004, 11:09:00 PM
Now that sounds cool, I'll talk to some of my buddies down at MGM to see if we can work out a script for it, I love turning games into movies.

Has anyone seen the movie Wing Commander? that was cool.

PS. I don't have buddies at MGM Studios
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Post by: xamlit on February 17, 2004, 09:14:11 AM
I could donate a couple million dollars if you like? (thumbsup)  
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on February 17, 2004, 11:43:59 AM
Oh yes Please!

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Post by: gpgarrettboast on February 17, 2004, 03:49:49 PM
I can't wait!  Get zircon to make you 3d battle scenes. :)
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Post by: xfir on February 17, 2004, 06:29:29 PM
I suppose if you can get a good financer and some budget money.. not to mention artists and actors (or just ourselves) we could make such a movie.

Maybe you could get Philip to write the story.
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 17, 2004, 09:09:41 PM
I currently have done little with my novellas. I have had some ideas for them, and will get back to them ... sometime. (This is coming from the currently least active admin)

I would be interested in writing a script. Making Outpost 1 into a movie will be a challenge, and one than one script writer/plot consultant/whatever would be appreciated.

EDIT: Here are my thoughts about a movie about Outpost:

Ok, first off, Outpost 1 can be a standalone movie, but I don’t think it would be as good as an Outpost 2 centered movie. I think it would be best to start off the first 20-30 minutes with Outpost 1, and end in Outpost 2. There is no way that all three can be put together in one movie. Including Outpost 3 is out of the question.


(scene 1)
We start off with the Conestoga leaving the solar system. As the Conestoga is moving, we’d have a narrator fill in on what is happening. The narrator would say how the asteroid was found, the whole attempt to blow it up, what is the Conestoga program, and where the asteroids hit on Earth.

Between Scene 1 & 2: Possibility: Atlas Rebellion
Only a possibility, it may be better to just not have the Atlas rebellion in at all

(scene 2)
On the Conestoga, we will have the formation of the Eden Council. Then we have the problematic task of settling a colony on New Terra. We finish off with order being established in Eden.

(scene 3)
We see Eden from above, and see it grow it fast motion. Meanwhile, the narrator talks about Eden and how it grows.

(scene 4 and late)
We either go with the OP2 novella
My novella
And what I am leaning towards: both novellas

Unfortunately, we have two different OP3s being done. What we want to do is have things done to the point where we do not go into the beginning plot of either Outpost 3.
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 18, 2004, 09:25:37 AM
oh, the computers are savant computers. Wing commander was cool. I have the game Wing Commander III: Heart of the Tiger, very cool game, runs as far up on OSs as Win ME, i haven't gotten it to work on xp, something conflicts with the video system WC3 uses.
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on February 18, 2004, 09:27:29 AM
I've Get the same game, I don't play it as often anymore though.

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Post by: Oprime on February 18, 2004, 09:27:43 AM
This is a great idea (thumbsup) . But, how are ya guys gonna pull it off....Actors....3D artest and the bunch. It would be Phat if you guys decided to make it a 3D movie like that Fanal Fantasy movie. The only difference is that it would be good :whistle: and if you guys use something like a Beowolf workstation (Super Computer made of many other workstations) it would look great. Does anybody want to share processor idle time? B)  
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Post by: Zircon on February 18, 2004, 09:37:25 AM
Just because you have a super computer it doesn't mean something will look good...

A faster computer only affects rendering time...

I could render final fantasy on my computer, the only difference is that it would take a lot longer...
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 18, 2004, 09:38:22 AM
true, so true, and it all depends on video quality, sound quality, ect.
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Post by: Oprime on February 18, 2004, 09:45:37 AM
If you are gonna make a movie I think you would need it. And also some Massive HD to store all the models and then for Encoding a lot of power would be needed. Don't companys like the company that made Finding Nemo use Macs to make their movies.
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Post by: Zircon on February 18, 2004, 11:21:41 AM
Macs are mainly used for 2d rendering and manipulation these days, more and more companies have switched over to intel based solutions...

They didn't use macs for 3d work before either, studios like Industrial Light & Magic, Sony Pictures Imageworks, and Pixar invested in SGI hardware but has as said switched to intel based solutions...

Macs still rule the land of 2d and editing though...
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Post by: selfdestruct on February 18, 2004, 04:14:24 PM
Back the tiger off, i never said that tis was going to be completely computer generated, first off i have practally unlimited rescorces in my college including staff that can advise me, my main field im in is entertainment technology, lights sound. projection, fx, and sets , im going to practaclly have unlimited resorces and knowledge to complete this film, all i need is a scrit that can match up to my vision and all input its graciously accepted, i need concept art and i need an acruite list of charactors and what should the inside of the buildings look like, the tube system the upcolse look at the vehicles the landscape has to be a key importance.. i dont want this too look like just another copy of another scifi film , also i need to come up wtihthe future colonies of ne haven the bight or what ever side is made up for futer outpost3
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Post by: BlackBox on February 18, 2004, 04:35:16 PM
Ok. Places like Pixar use specialized equipment that is designed ONLY for 3d rendering.

It's not a normal piece of crap like a Mac (Grr, I hate those). No they don't use Macs, nor PC's to do the work.

There are special workstations, and racks upon racks of processors that do nothing but rendering.

Rendering with consumer computer equipment would take years (No - I am not kidding).

I once watched a show on Pixar and it said with rooms full of 1000's of processors it still takes 2+ months of nonstop to render a whole movie.

In Monsters, Inc. a couple scenes are so complex (I think the monorail thing) that ONE FRAME of them took 2 days - week, just for one frame. (If I remember right).

Title: Outpost The Movie
Post by: Zircon on February 18, 2004, 05:07:17 PM
Just as a note, I said Intel based "solutions"...
That isn't the same as a 2 ghz p4 pc...

Also 2 days up to a week sounds exaggerated...

Example, You get to see the monorail scene for several seconds, 1 second is (normal) 30 frames...

2 to 7 days * (30 * number of seconds) becomes a lot of time, it would make more sense if they said that the monorail "part" took 2 days to a week...

The processor farms, were/are the SGI hardware...
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Post by: Oprime on February 18, 2004, 05:12:15 PM
:heh: I didn't mean to cause trouble I was just thinking it would be phat to have it as a 3D rendering.

Hmm......What if we had a room filled with 30 computers with these specs:
Pentium 4 3.2Ghz Extream (dual if they make these multi tread :P )<---Most be rich to have one of these :P
4Gigs of 550Mhz DDR
GeforceFX 5950 ultra 256DDRII 8x agp

All of them would be connected to a Beowolf linux Network and use Giga Ethernet for the connection. I wonder how much it would cost for a setup like this? And what kind of equipment do those companys use? This is a big question sorry if it's to much for you guys I'm just thinking out loud. Don't worry Hacker I hate Macs too GRRR. Just thinking about Macs makes my head hurt from all the debates I had with my friend that loves Macs.
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 18, 2004, 06:25:24 PM
in my opinion, macs absolutely SUCK, even if they do currently have the fastest computer. And it would cost around 50 million for your idea to work Prime. (best guess)
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Post by: Betaray on February 18, 2004, 08:17:09 PM
to make it production worthy, yes

but once we have a script, it would probly only take a copule months of cgi work by a couple of people that are very bord and have nothing better to do lol

*not nameing anyone in perticuler*

but we know they alrdy have the computer rendering software, so we wouldnt have to pay for that, and if we can settle for somthing less than perfect

*I doubt any of us are expecting cgi quality of "Final Fantisy the Spirits Within"*

Title: Outpost The Movie
Post by: Oprime on February 19, 2004, 07:24:32 AM
:lol: The P4 processor alone would cost $1000 and that much ram..... With that kind of setup I think a movie could be done in less then half the time.  awww to be young, rich, famous, and with a Super Computer :lol: How long did it take to make those models? Whoops going off topic.....Who would be the actors of this great film?
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Post by: Luweeg64 on February 19, 2004, 07:39:21 AM
that would be crazy, we should shoot a live action movie...THINK OF IT, It could have like Pierce Brosnan and stuff......wow
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on February 19, 2004, 08:26:39 AM
If you did a movie with actors and stuff, you would have to build sets, and pay for
the actors and the sets and stuff.
but if you did an animation, the only thing your paying for is the electricity bill.

Sure an movie would be easier, but an animation is less expensive.

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Post by: plymoth45 on February 19, 2004, 09:22:55 AM
that is true, but i don't know much about that sort of thing.
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Post by: Leviathan on February 19, 2004, 01:14:41 PM
this is a great idea, it needs 2 b done.
I had thort of doing some sort of op2 animation not long ago, i had 2 make all the models first so i kinda stoped work on it.
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Post by: it2000us on February 19, 2004, 02:25:56 PM
You'r all talking non-sence, you'r all talk and no work, shure its easy to say lets do this and lets do that. But do you realize how much money, resources and time its gona take to do this. This isnt some little annimation of a lynx shoting, a movie is serious stuff and ill bet that none of us here know anything about movie making.

You'r just saying stuff that you heard some where or saw on TV. So lets be realistic here, this is not gona happen. The OP3 games alone are taking already about 2-3 years to make and theyre still barely finished.

Im not agains this, an op movie sounds like a good idea, but be serious.  
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Post by: Zircon on February 19, 2004, 02:43:35 PM
*thumbs up at it2000us's post* I couldn't have said it better  ^_^

Im suspecting that everyone is (partially) aware of this though, atleast on a subconscious layer...
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Post by: Oprime on February 19, 2004, 03:52:08 PM
I didn't think that it would happen ether. I just said it would be phat if it were made. it2000us your being kind of harsh when all we were doing is talking...dang
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 19, 2004, 06:49:06 PM
well, you never know, it could happen
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 20, 2004, 09:18:23 AM
People, if we keep saying it will never happen, guess what: it won't happen! We need to all gather together, support those working on the movie and make this movie work! Yes, we do have two sequels that are being made, and still have a ways to go. I don't care if it takes 5 years, or even 10 years, I will be glad to support this movie effort in any way possible!  
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 20, 2004, 09:20:49 AM
I couldn't have said it better.
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Post by: it2000us on February 21, 2004, 03:24:25 PM
Well, phillip, since you'r the one whos doing most of the taking about this movie thing. Than why dont you provide us with state of the art computer art/movie making programs, people who actualy know what theyr doing and how to make computer generated movies. Give us advertizers and a couple milion dollars so that we can at least get a jump start, o and dont forget to get movie starts who will start in the movie(Dont say that we will be in it, cuz no1 know how to be a movie star).

So after you have got all of this stuff tell us about the progress.

OPPrime im not being harsh so dont make me look like a bad guy.

PS:Even if we do say its gona happen, its still not gona happen, because no1 here will contribute milions of dollars on this thing no mater how much we like the game. Because we have lives and families who we will need to spend money on.
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 21, 2004, 09:44:20 PM
It2000us, looking to one person to make things happen will not get something done. I recommend we have a committee or something that will be put to the task of organizing things. However, we need a story first before making it into a movie. For the time it will take to write the script, it may be some time that can be used to the advantage of getting this movie to work. I don't care if it takes five years to find a way to do it, something like this may take patience and us not giving up. When I had said what I said earlier, I had not meant that it would be easy. Maybe we will get lucky, but that is not likely. For me, it may take me a while to get together a script. I want to make it so good, that we won't have too much trouble finding willing people to do it. It is in my opinion, that we do not seek people until a first draft is done. It is better to show that we have something waiting to be made than just an idea.

I am currently thinking up a story. I plan on it being original, and the main characters not being from any novella written. My current idea is to have the three main characters be friends. One will be an ideologic socialist that will go with Plymouth, and experience things from Plymouth's angle. One will be a Eden riosec, who will be in a good bit of combat throughout the War of New Terra. Then there will be one in an administrative position, being the head honcho that runs the day-to-day things in the Eden Command Center buring the war. The last person will be more central to the plot, since he is the one who finds out some interesting things, but are only pieces to the grand scheme of things. He will know of the reassigning of several scientists to an unknown project before the Blight was released, the unexplained deaths of three Eden Councilors, he'll find out about how the Masters sabotaged the Blight, and towards the end of the movie, he will find out who told the Masters to sabotage the Blight. The movie will go through the War of New Terra's major battles, and will end with a cliffhanger, Eden's forces now trying to stop the countdown for launchoff of the stolen RLV at Plymouth's Spaceport. I plan on this movie containing elements of mystery, suspence, and action.
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on February 22, 2004, 07:55:22 AM
First of all you need a story, doesn't have to be in detail just basically what’s going to happen.
Second of all you need a script, something for the characters to say.
Thirdly you need to make a story board, a basic visual description of what’s going to happen in each scene and when the characters say there lines then you go back to the story and script and improve and so on.

That's just the beginning of the stuff needed to make a Movie.

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Post by: it2000us on February 22, 2004, 05:43:48 PM
Not bad, but u left out the most crutial aspect of this thing, MONEY!!!.
Where are you gona get millions on dollars to make this happen?
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 22, 2004, 09:40:33 PM
Geeee, if we come across a million dollars, it2000us, you'd be the first to know. Hmmm, maybe we should put It in charge of funding, since he seems to be concerned about it. To get money ... it takes time. (Duh belongs here) At the moment, there appears to be no solution to this issue, but that does not mean a solution will not present itself.  
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 22, 2004, 10:29:41 PM
well, anyone who has a job could maybe picht in 5 dollars a week and in a few decades we would have enough to do it lol.
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 23, 2004, 10:47:04 AM
... in a few decades, maybe it will be cheaper to do it.
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 23, 2004, 02:12:35 PM
maybe, and hopefully
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 23, 2004, 03:09:56 PM
I am now writing the introduction. In the script I am writing, I am giving the whole Outpost intro-movie thing on the 1.5 CD, but am putting in more details, and saying what will the audience be seeing as the narrator is talking. I set the Vulcan's Hammer hitting Earth in 2062, and took into account the liklieness of there being lunar and Mars colonies, but the Mars colony was destroyed in a storm, and the lunar colony is pounded by fragments of Vulcan's Hammer.  Another thing I hope that will be done in the movie is that we get to see the missile split Vulcan's Hammer. That would be cool.
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Post by: plymoth45 on February 23, 2004, 08:35:25 PM
yes, it would be very cool, but how are you going to get such an effect?
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Post by: selfdestruct on February 24, 2004, 11:54:05 PM
Im working in mya , merlin and studio works , im currently trying to get my scrip together and nothing is perment and i gladly take criticism, also i have been looking at what some of you have given me and find that it is with great effort that everyones input is important , but must stay true to the out post story line if this is going to succeed and with money being such an important con cern is that , this movie will have alow budjet but not cheep results , take piece by piece and it does not matter how big off a budjet we have. but that does not mean i cant see why not use what i have learned at my field of choice in entertainment technoloogy i can practly do all the sets myself.(yes we need actors i know ). but it is important that the proceess of haveing the scip finished first.

On a side note the programs i am curently working on i am working on new avis of outpost 3  and if all goes well i can help the two versions of outpost 3 that are being worked on. by supporting outpost video clip animations
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Post by: OP2Patriot on February 27, 2004, 08:41:18 AM
Selfdestruct, you are writing a script?

I am currently fleshing out my second level of planning for the main story of the script I am writing. One thing I should be careful about is not having the real story start too late in the movie. Also, as for special effects, I am writing it as I would imagine it, and from there, we can "downgrade." For example, if my intro is too grand, I could have one of the main characters tell the story as a simple presentation without many special effects.
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Post by: CK9 on February 28, 2004, 05:41:54 PM
So, what's the ETC?
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on February 29, 2004, 10:56:19 AM
If you can post some of what you have we all could post insights and ideas that you could use.

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Post by: selfdestruct on March 09, 2004, 03:53:27 PM
i just want to let everyone that i am almost done with the rough draft and will have it ready in about my estimated time of 2 weeks.. i know that may seem long but i keep going back and cahnging it around

i was wondering  if i can up load it on the site xfir or any other admistrator or have it put on some onse site for review and critic .... can i have the text file on the post? oh and xfir di u get my pm?
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Post by: Stormy on June 24, 2005, 10:39:23 PM
I read somewhere that at the end of op2 the savant computers became one with the blight.. and could talk to the colonists in their ship using a satelite in orbit. Just thought i could help  :P
Awesome idea.. maybe i can make some music for it :P :rolleyes: . but, im still new to producing stuff.. lol :unsure: . Keep it up  (thumbsup)  (thumbsup)
oh ya, and ill be interested in reviewing the script if you want :).
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Post by: plymoth45 on June 24, 2005, 11:56:52 PM
Boy, talk about thread resurrections :S :P

The last post in this was over a year old lol

(I know this is off topic)
Title: Outpost The Movie
Post by: coolzero on June 25, 2005, 06:42:29 AM
since i have not been online for a while i didnt know what all this forum said so i started reading (though i stoped about 20 replays back cousi got boored) a lto of ppl say that it cant be done . whel i disagree. for one thing i made my own short!!!! lame!!!! ass!!!! s***y!!!!! 3d movie about outpost. not that its not lame but that was the first 3d modeling and movie making i ever did . it took me 2 days to make it (it would have taken me 6 hours if i knew what i was doing but i had to learn it first) . what i am saying i think it surely is posible . though i would make it to long. more for an impression of the game being cool then just a hole movie with good and evil etc
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Post by: selfdestruct on August 01, 2005, 03:01:34 PM
hi , i had such hopes for this movie and the car well a while back about the outpost car mod and was going really well i had everything i needed but the car couldnt keep going and so i sold it as is for like 850 and then i bought my new car its a 2002 dodge neon sxt, silver color its nice but i cant really do much to it the way i was going to do the blazer, besides paint and maybe a modified body. the dream crashed then, i wanted do the movie but with constant work every damn day it seems like and plus college its hard for me to work on it i felt like i bearly started it, but lately i show up and then i drop of the radar im sorry and now i should have no excuse for it now that im off but you know that feeling that you always went somewhere and then you feel weird that you came back after so long, i sort of feel like that.  
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Post by: thablkpanda on August 01, 2005, 06:23:13 PM
I agree with IT, and Patriot's points on this matter (These ARE old posts.. lol)

IT2k wth ever his name is has a serious point, The money and time it takes to do these things just isn't there. We have SEVERAL commitiees and SEVERAL projects underway already. It'd be like if the President had an idea (Yes, this is hypothetical) to delegate EVERY one of his secretaries (Education, Defense, Labor, etc.) To their job, and they couldn't recruit anyone else. That's basically what we'll have in a short time. We'll have two hundred active members, sure, and a hundred and five separate (small, very small) projects being worked on by one - two people 'In their spare time'. Which for some of us, is one-three hours a day, or less. And if a solution to recieving a million + dollars within a small timespan ever occured to ANYONE, trust me, I'd be the first one to know about it (and I don't know of a way, correct me if I'm wrong) short of winning the lottery (and If I did, no offense, I wouldn't give a million to you guys to 'make a movie'.

I could compare Patriot's ideas, to trying to hang a light, just by setting it in the celing. (No screws, no brackets, no string, no telepathy) And HOPING and PRAYING that it stays up there... IMHO, the idea of any more projects until we get more members and/or win the lottery collectively, (Chances are 1 billion : less than one) assuming we all buy tickets (which some people can't, legally.)

I think i'm just rambling on and on cuz i got this highly cool new wireless keyboard and mouse set that's so cool to type on... and watch the words on my laptop like three feet away.

Tha(practical)panda :ph34r: