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Outpost Series Games => Outpost 2 Divided Destiny => Topic started by: Admiralkio on April 25, 2013, 06:16:46 PM

Title: Cheats?
Post by: Admiralkio on April 25, 2013, 06:16:46 PM
Do these still work? i cant get them to work.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Flashy on April 25, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
Nope, the outpostuniverse version has them disabled, after excessive abuse in multiplayer. Can't be enabled without hacking.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: TH300 on April 25, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
You can play the original cd version if you want cheats. But be aware that that is not compatible with our version, so for multiplayer, you need ours.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Admiralkio on April 25, 2013, 06:33:36 PM
Hm, i dont have the CD version and i doubt it will run on Win7.
What do i need to do to get them working? this is for single player.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Highlander on April 26, 2013, 02:29:18 AM
Cheat codes will no longer work with the OPU version - unless you know enough about coding to make them work again.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: TH300 on April 26, 2013, 03:35:05 AM
Even if I knew how to enable cheats in the opu version, I wouldn't tell you, because that knowledge could possibly be abused.

I do anyway not know what's so great about cheats.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: SongBird on April 26, 2013, 06:43:06 AM
Well the only plus side I can see to cheats, would probably be that you could for once complete the Plymouth Cold War mission on any setting.  
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Hidiot on April 26, 2013, 01:08:53 PM
With the help of Hooman, I actually attached code to the old cheat parser for that old project of mine. And with that I learned other things, like: the code to read cheats and execute them is basically stripped from the game.

If you'll find an old topic in the files forum of someone who wanted to distribute a working cheat mod, you'll also learn why we discourage it.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Flashy on April 26, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
Though in order to cheat in multiplayer you'd have to install the mod on every client involved.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Admiralkio on April 26, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
I dont want to cheat in multiplayer, thats just not a good show, now is it? :P
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Arklon on April 26, 2013, 03:04:06 PM
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Even if I knew how to enable cheats in the opu version, I wouldn't tell you, because that knowledge could possibly be abused.
In multiplayer, all clients would have to be modified for cheats to not simply cause a major desync.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Flashy on April 26, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
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Even if I knew how to enable cheats in the opu version, I wouldn't tell you, because that knowledge could possibly be abused.
In multiplayer, all clients would have to be modified for cheats to not simply cause a major desync.
That's what I thought. Outpost 2 is designed to run on each machine seperately and any modification of just one instance of the game would negate that assumption, and therefore wouldn't work.

I suppose there isn't a real danger in hacking a cheat system in, as we already confirmed by those experiments Hidiot and the others did on hijacking the OP2 message system, which I have based my mission DistantNoise on. The source code samples by Hidiot can even be found in the cpp files in my thread.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Highlander on April 27, 2013, 12:51:04 AM
I've seen 2 separate programs/trainers or whatever you would like to call them, that would work with OP2 and would allow the user to cheat in both single player and multiplayer.

So it can actually be done.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Flashy on April 27, 2013, 04:39:25 AM
So these actually solve the problem of desynchronization? Or do they cause different effects?
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Highlander on April 27, 2013, 05:30:06 AM
I'm not a programmer, so I have no clue on how they would work. Bot was separate programs for OP2 though.

The first one I came across was used while WON still existed and would allow you to get 10k common and 10k rare or - even if you had no storage room for it in your colony.
It was a separate program you could download on some weird webpage I remember.


The 2nd one, was posted here on the forums, by someone who meant well I suppose, but never realized the scope of what he was doing. It was also a program, similar to the first one I described, but in multiplayer it would only work for the person hosting the game.. or player #1 to put it another way. So even if player #6 used the program, player #1 would get the bonus :P
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Arklon on April 27, 2013, 10:10:37 AM
My statement applied to the game's built-in cheats, to clarify.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Lugia3 on April 27, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
Once I was in a multiplayer match many years ago. For some reason, a black box popped up and told everyone that cheats had been activated.

Outpost 2 does some strange stuff sometimes.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Hidiot on April 28, 2013, 04:13:47 AM
Any actual details? Like what map that was?
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Lugia3 on May 02, 2013, 03:39:55 PM
I don't remember what map it was, sorry. It was 6 or 7 years ago now.
Title: Cheats?
Post by: Arklon on May 03, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
As I recall an early version of Forsaken World had a bug that caused that message to pop up.