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Projects & Development => GORF => Hall of Fame => Topic started by: evecolonycamander on February 02, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
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"Welcome to Eve, the best of the best reside here."
I will start with a sandbox/demo to get off the ground.
This is where i will put all of my developments for this colony. :op2:
If you have any ideas or questions or even attempts of help bounce them off of me.
Very basic backround of colony
second star ship launched from earth
has been watching Eden and Plimoth scene landing
attacked by a mysterious group of life forms--the Johvas
INTRO
The Hope (Name of star ship) was once was the international space station it was redesigned to launch half way to Alpha Centauri B (fyi there are 3 Alpha Centauris, one is a red dwarf, and two are sun sized I think) with 100 people as a back up plan, but some thing went wrong. A spontaneous gravity well catapulted them further and faster then expected to a previously uncharted system. Seeing as their resources where low, they decided to make a temporary colony here and move on. That was until they learned of Eden and Plymouth. After a fierce debate the council decided that they are to avoid both colonies at all costs until they could learn more about them. So for a time they did and the more they learned the more it scared them. In their fear the council decided to reactivate their weapons database and prepare for the worst. Only problem was, they had no clue where it was going to come from...
STORY LINE/ novela
commander Fallon didn't care. she didn’t care that every one she knew on earth was dead. she didn’t care that her life was in shambles. All she knew was that her new home and her people was under attack and they depended on her to save it. The swarms of spider like units where all over the place. The tunnels were chaos. People where running all over the place disregarding the calm savont computer issuing commands over the intercom. They were scared, and rightfully so. There had not been an attack like this since World War 3 back on Old Earth. As Bejince passed by a reinforced window in the command center he saw the new Linx microwaves go in to action. The scorpions as had come to call them turned and fired back. Then an explosion occurred. One of the scorpions went up in flames. [Unfinished]
Mission 1 objectives- distroy remaining scorpion units
- evacuate all units to beacon in the south west
- evacuate 1 tokamac
- evacuate 1 comand center
- evacuate 1 stucture factory
- evacuate 1 vehicle factory
- evacuate 1 common ore smelter
- evacuate 1 agridome
- evacuate 1 basic lab
[Am i forgeting any other basic units]
Teks included- solor array revamp
- [more to come]
Weapons list-Eve- Microwave
- Sticky foam
- Starflare
- EMP
- Acid Cloud
- Thors Hammer
(Will fix/finish later)
Posible End Game Senarios- Wormhole Tek (FAILED)
- Last Stand(current pet idea)
- Return to Earth
- Kill blight
Give Feed Back
Eve Sandbox game
Progress----------3 1/3%
-Map making----------0%
--Sandbox map1----???% Ask LOP
-Coding ---------------0%
-Tek tree-------------10%
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For some weird reason, I can't shake the feeling that this belongs in the fan fic forum...
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your right. also, you seriously need to add the info...
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Who, me?
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the first part is you, seccond part is eve dude
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Stop using the same pronoun to refer to two people! :P
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Yea, instead use it to talk about 3 or more people :P
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All this is is me doing someting like outpost renagades but from start to finish
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kewl, i guess
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Only if it gets finished.
If you haven't already, you should check out my coding tutorials. You may find them useful for such a project.
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Oh it'll get done, all right.
and i have to say that if it wasent for you sirbomber i would be siting here asking for some one to code it for me even though i know it would never happen
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I wanna help! I'v sent you details in a pm, do read it.
I hope this becomes a good colony game.
I support. (thumbsup)
Edit: I think esg with acid would be good.
Sticky, microwave, starflare, and emp. I think that should be all, we don't want too much now do we?
Also consider how many different weapons eden/plymouth has. May that be your exsample? I think it could be.
Guidlines to balance:
If eve has emp missle, they cannot have medeor defense, and the other way around too.
If eve has consumergoods+repairvehcile, they can't have the arachnicactory, other way around too.
Even can only have 4 of the following techs: railgun, supernova, stickyfoam, rpg, thorshammer, esg, acidcloud, laser, microwave.
The following, which you probably know, is for all colonies: starflare, emp, an area of affect weapon, a ranged weapon(bigger than mic/laz).
I look forward to this colony game :D
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Couldn't one pull out some of the weapons seen in the pre-release demo for some "New" weaponry ? (At least the microwave looks different and without me knowing - there might be other weapons in those files as well ?)
And if you want more diversity you could always play around with the the current weapons - increase/decrese rang of fire, duration of of ESG mines etc..
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Already doing that
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Hmmm, a few names are strangely similar to some of EVE's...
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What do you mean?
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EVE online he means. Its a black whole in the internet which will suck you in for months..
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eve is evil... Actually this (http://xkcd.com/177/) came to my mind.
Well, I wish you good luck with this project. Please keep it op2ish (alien life forms don't fit in that scheme), don't make any super-weapons etc. And I'd appreciate if you could provide a nice story/novella behind "eve" or whatever you're going to call it.
Edit: typos
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Yeah, it might be nice to know what this is...
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not sure why eve is evil prehaps you can eleborate that one to me. Hehe start another thread on that.
any way. After seeing the suggestion of a wormhole. I would have to say that is out of the question. First one hasnt been found and second no one has any idea what forces would be involved with going near one let alot inside one. I wouldnt even suggest a blackhole either the ship would be torn apart by the tidal forces before getting to it. Alien life i dont know that just seems to be to out there the possiblity of finding a planet that is good let alone people living on it is beyond astronomical.
remember op2 has good real science base. If you break that it might make the game seem cheapend.
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Well in theory wormholes exist when space/time bend to a point where mater and energy can pass vertically to other times and/or places in space/time faster than that same matter/energy would in traveling on its normal undisturbed linear movement.
That is a worm hole definition
worm holes are thought to be in huge and powerful gravity wells (ie. Black Hole)
the tek tree for this would result in the already doomed planet being destroyed that is how i plan to end the game
click below for a better definition and a image to represent it
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall2002.w...definition.html (http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall2002.web.dir/Inghram_Webpage/definition.html)
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ie black holes how is your ship going to survive when your compressed down to energy. yes that is a well thought out way to survive.
and i just noticed that you said some thing abut a second ship leaving earth this has been thought of before and it pretty much gets shot down by the fact that all reseources were piled into making the first one so there wouldnt be any way to make a second one.
I dont remember who suggested it a while back but the best way to have a split off story is to have people in deep deep underground statis chambers wake up in like 1000 years or so this is possible based on the fact that the op2 ship had these as well and they very well could have been built as a back up plan or a contengency.
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I had a similar idea about having survives on earth, but the idea could leave to many factions. I.E. more people on earth would survive then on new terra, so we could be getting seval major faction, and also, would they all leave earth to goto new terra?
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i doubt they would beable to leave earth because of all the resources that were taken up by the ship. if any thing they might make it to mars or venus. but other then that they would be stuck on earth having to deal with the aftermath of the impact. i would say that like 90% of the populace would have died as there wouldnt have been enough room for every one.
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the Hope (Name of star ship) was once was the international space station
it was redesigned to launch half way to alpha centari B (fyi there are 3 alpha centaris one is a red dwarf two are sun sized I think) as a back up plan, but some thine went wrong. a spontaneous gravity well catapulted the further and faster then expected to an previously uncharted system. seeing as there resources where low the decided to make a temporary colony here and move on. that was until they learn of Eden and Plymouth they decided before making contact they sat and watched, then when they saw what was happening they got scared, reactivated their weapons database and prepared for the worst. only problem was, they had no clue where it was going to come from...
this is the intro. hope it helps with some questions you all have
i have also edited it in my first post to include this.
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Well, it's better than this...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/Sirbomber/OP3_Nutshell.jpg)
But that's not saying much. How did they "watch" Eden and Plymouth, unless by sheer coincidence they ended up in the same star system as New Terra, in which case see the above image and pay particular attention to the plot hole. Also, the starship used to be the ISS? That doesn't even make sense. You can't just "modify" a space station into a craft capable of flight between star systems. However, it's not unbelievable that the ISS wouldn't be recycled and whatever could be salvaged would be used in the construction of a new starship, assuming it still exists.
Also, why only go "halfway" to Alpha Centauri? That would leave them rotting in deep space with no hope of survival. Also, what exactly is a "spontaneous gravity well" and how is one formed?
And why would they build defenses against an "enemy" that was neither proven to be hostile nor likely to come in contact with them?
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Ok here it is take a look at the space station as it is. peace of crap right? now ad about 200 years or tech tor that crap hole and give it the ability for interstellar travel and stasis pods. what do you got? A Hodge podge star ship.
to your other question heres another: how far do you have to hit a baseball to get it to the moon?
for your 3erd question read up on black holes
And as for your final qusetion i will ask yet another one: you see your neghbors shooting each other and see no place to hide. do you A.) Duck and hope you don't get shot or B.) grab a gun and take them out yourself
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1: No; you have a space station with an engine that will fall apart the minute you start to accelerate.
2: What?
3: If they came anywhere near a black hole they'd be spaghettified, not "thrown off-course".
4: If they're in an "uncharted system" Eden and Plymouth are far away from wherever they are. They are not a threat.
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1) i mean properly done
2) Little over half way gravity and acceleration do the rest
3) not if you pass through the event horizon
4)uncharted to them(missing from database)
5)What was the question again?
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You fail (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnrealisticBlackHole)physics (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouFailPhysicsForever)and (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GravitySucks)astronomy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouFailAstronomyForever)forever. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay)
Note: Five different links there.
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a spontaneous gravity well
Spontaneous? That just sounds silly. Either it's there or it's not. I've never heard of gravity just sort of appearing out of nowhere. At least nowhere outside of movies. But sure, they could go off course due to an unexpected gravitational pull from a body they didn't expect to pass near. A slight change in course over a long trip will certainly put you very far off your destination. However, would a slight course correction place you in another solar system after a similar period of time? I kind of doubt it.
that was until they learn of Eden and Plymouth they decided before making contact they sat and watched
So, the last survivors of earth, by some miracle, ran into the only other survivors of earth, and they didn't make contact. After months of isolation in space, and being the social creatures that we are (yes, even the loners), we would probably be going a bit funny in the head and would stumble head over feet to greet anyone else we ran into. Ever seen how talkative people from highly isolated areas tend to be?
I think if Eden and Plymouth are somehow involved in the storyline, then everyone must somehow come from they same ship they all arrived on, like say another splinter colony. Particularly if they meet up at some non previously agreed upon destination.
At least that's sort of what I would think to really accept any new story.
Sirbomber, not the nicest reply. Although, those links were kind of interesting.
I also think wormholes seem a bit too fictional for the Outpost series. They seem to be more of a theoretical construct, that may work on paper, but not something likely to be encountered, or usable if encountered.
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3) not if you pass through the event horizon
You mean, "unless you can magically pass through the event horizon". Without getting spaghetti-ified. Except you will get spaghetti-ified.
Sirbomber: What have you done?! (http://xkcd.com/609/)
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Ok here it is take a look at the space station as it is. peace of crap right? now ad about 200 years or tech tor that crap hole and give it the ability for interstellar travel and stasis pods. what do you got? A Hodge podge star ship.
You would be better off citing technologies that could have been developed on the ISS rather than launching the ISS into the dark void of space. As the ISS grows, it's going to grow into a small orbital village, not a small orbital starship. Moving it even to Mars would be like trying to move a suburb across the state, houses and all. Obviously, we have airplanes on Earth for this, so the outerspace equivalent is needed. As far as technologies developed via the ISS, perhaps the study of stasis chambers and life support systems in microgravity would be something you could mention
to your other question heres another: how far do you have to hit a baseball to get it to the moon?
Over 320,000 kilometers to the L1 LaGrange point between the Earth and the Moon. That's somewhere in the area of 84% of the way, not 50%. Also, this is a relatively small distance. Halfway between the sun and ANY star would be practically a void of nothingness. The gravitational pull of anything would be so close to zero, they would all die in their stasis chambers before they came into contact with anything. Even if they had enough fuel for half the journey and their momentum carried them along the rest of the way....how would they stop and get to the surface? (safely?)
for your 3erd question read up on black holes
These form from huge amounts of mass coming together to form a singularity...not popping up out of nowhere. Alternative ideas are perhaps a stray asteroid glancing across the spacecraft. Although since the Savant computers from the original Outpost 2 storyline were 1 megahertz away from being sentient, I imagine the onboard computers could correct the course due to this or any other course-altering anomaly.
And as for your final qusetion i will ask yet another one: you see your neghbors shooting each other and see no place to hide. do you A.) Duck and hope you don't get shot or B.) grab a gun and take them out yourself
I've had neighbors who HAVE shot each other...I spent 30 minutes figuring out what the bang was, and then the ambulance showed up. The star, at the very least, would likely be 5 to 10 lightyears away, thus information about New Terra would be 5 to 10 years behind what it really was. A starship would take much longer than this to reach whatever starsystem Eve is in, so even by the time they saw a starship being constructed, they would have likely a few years to prepare any sort of welcoming party they felt was needed.
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Excellent picture there Sirbomber !! Gave me a good laugh
ECC - While your ideas are appreciated, try to keep them within the boundaries of know science ?
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Excellent picture there Sirbomber !! Gave me a good laugh
Fenrisul deserves all credit for that Highlander.
And Arklon: I was hoping he would get trapped there for eternity, not you. :P
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And Arklon: I was hoping he would get trapped there for eternity, not you. :P
By He i don't suppose you mean me, do you?
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Indeed I did! ;)
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Im starting to think that you dont like the idea of a new outpost game even though your signature line says your doing the same thing as mine
:unsure:
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I'm starting to think your sense of humor blows.
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It could be ether that or it couldn't
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Whoops, i missed what Jessai posted okey. at least hes got a good argument just add some links that support it and i may just revise it a bit. link do have to be up to date though. ummm...adding more to the story today any ways. I hope.
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Updated. Argue all you want
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ECC, seriously don't let anything they say get to you, for its your idea, not theirs.
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Translating spkerocks101's last post in a different light:
ECC, don't care about what everyone else thinks about trampling on the realistic foundation of the Outpost series (Hard science, with a few presumptions, but nothing too wild).
Seriously, keep in mind that whatever gets done in this community casts a light into the outside. If that light contains too many serious and ample projects that take a really loose regard to the game's spirit, then people from the outside might get the wrong idea.
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Seriously, keep in mind that whatever gets done in this community casts a light into the outside.
Yeah, especially when we are total ass holes to the outsiders >_>
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Seriously, keep in mind that whatever gets done in this community casts a light into the outside.
Yeah, especially when we are total ass holes to the outsiders >_>
Speak for yourself, I bake them cookies.
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ECC, seriously don't let anything they say get to you, for its your idea, not theirs.
Spike, anybody who starts any project will have to deal with criticism. This is not something unique to OPU. Telling him to ignore criticism is bad advice since doing that will just make him and his project unpopular. This is not just "his" idea. If he wants people to like his project he must be open to suggestions. We've told him, "your story doesn't make sense and doesn't really fit OP2's theme". Now he can choose to listen to us, work with us, and maybe get some people to help him out along the way, or he can do what you're telling him to do (act like a spoiled brat) with the end result being nobody will ever play his campaign.
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Truthfully Sirbomber is right and when i think of this i think everyone should be in on this. and if not worm hole how can the tek be edited to include it with out destroying the delicate foundation you see as OP2.
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Well, what was the original purpose of those techs? They basically served a story purpose, so you can just rewrite them into pretty much anything as long as it's scientifically feasible.
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Oh here's a hint on the relations of eve and any other colony, Eve was founded by the best military geniuses and scientists. thier leader is Fallon who is an Elder
i know its a double post but...
how about this the enemy of Eve is blighted units. i herd that the programmers original intent was to have blighted units attack you but was dropped for some reason (don't remember) it is included in an Eden mission and is in the novellas. so what do you think.
I have started coding today on June 8th 2010
pm me if you want to beta test it. i will use the original tektree for the first upload
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I'LL HALP
And Stop bagging on ECC, he's taking poetic license.
I personally think It's a good idea, regardless of physics failing.
BUT, New Terra being destroyed is a bit much, I kinda want a super computer planet. I think you should initiate a wormhole out in space, ripping apart a planet/ sun that New Terra has.
That and I was wondering, If I get good enough, maybe setting up a "what if they decided to send a Seeder to New Terra's moon?" scenario. Of course that would require new sets of tile sets. Though Lava could still be, depending on how many planets are in New Terra's Star System, seeing if we could have a resonance orbit compress/ squeeze the moon so its core is still molten.
Just a though.
ECC, I'd love to help.
Is this post still alive?
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this version of eve is dead. i am restarting it as some other version and trying to have a legitimate way of getting my story to mesh with the already existent one. as it stands, here is my current shortened storyline. on the tech tree, i say screw you all, you'll end up board one day and test it out anyways :P (JK)
Humanity is now safe; The star ship was safely launched. Now you are among those left behind and with the blight closing in you must desperately get to the remaining spaceport for one final mission: Your own survival. A half-brained idea was sparked the moment after Eden's launch. The remaining survivors will be shuttled to a failed seed colony launched to Terra Lunar B(Second moon orbiting new Terra;op1 supports this storyline)
Assuming you manage mission one, you find the colony is in shambles. Buildings sit in ruins, power is critical, and life support is minimal. There is hope however. You and your people have survived against all odds. Now, with the nearby ore depot you can rebuild, repair, and hopefully survive. the moon seems to be moderately ore rich, a surprise to your colonists, considering the sensors and probes on the Congesta failed to pick up the information.
After repairs on the base are completed you are greeted with disastrous news. an EMP missile was launched through the blight and deterioration. It's current course could completely miss. Or it could mean your efforts at survival are next to nothing.
The new counsel decides the best option would be to once again evacuate. Gather your resources and move. If the blighted missile lands, it will be your end if you stay.
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this version of eve is dead. i am restarting it as some other version and trying to have a legitimate way of getting my story to mesh with the already existent one. as it stands, here is my current shortened storyline. on the tech tree, i say screw you all, you'll end up board one day and test it out anyways :P (JK)
Humanity is now safe; The star ship was safely launched. Now you are among those left behind and with the blight closing in you must desperately get to the remaining spaceport for one final mission: Your own survival. A half-brained idea was sparked the moment after Eden's launch. The remaining survivors will be shuttled to a failed seed colony launched to Terra Lunar B(Second moon orbiting new Terra;op1 supports this storyline)
Assuming you manage mission one, you find the colony is in shambles. Buildings sit in ruins, power is critical, and life support is minimal. There is hope however. You and your people have survived against all odds. Now, with the nearby ore depot you can rebuild, repair, and hopefully survive. the moon seems to be moderately ore rich, a surprise to your colonists, considering the sensors and probes on the Congesta failed to pick up the information.
After repairs on the base are completed you are greeted with disastrous news. an EMP missile was launched through the blight and deterioration. It's current course could completely miss. Or it could mean your efforts at survival are next to nothing.
The new counsel decides the best option would be to once again evacuate. Gather your resources and move. If the blighted missile lands, it will be your end if you stay.
I'll still help ECC
and if you were ever to get on mIRC I'd be able to chat realtime.
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Please stop necroing old topics.
The post previous to your post was almost a year ago, this is completely bad forum etiquette.
You might want to consider making a new topic if you want to ask about what happened to this project.
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Will do mr admin :D can you please lock this one up?
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Sure thing Mr. Bot. I like these clever ones who just copy a random post from earlier in the thread and hope for the best. Like the link(s) in their signatures don't give it away.
Ehh, I know we're technically not supposed to respond to the bots, but I just wanted to make sure people caught this one, since it's an old thread and most people probably wouldn't have given it a second thought.
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Deleted the bot post and the bot account. I think I'm going to lock this thread since it's pretty much done. (and to avoid any other bots posting in it).