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Outpost Series Games => Outpost 2 Divided Destiny => Topic started by: CK9 on December 14, 2003, 12:41:01 AM

Title: help me defeat this company!
Post by: CK9 on December 14, 2003, 12:41:01 AM
first, read this:

staff review (https://web.archive.org/web/20041220174215/http://www.gamezilla.com/review.aspx?review=7698)

then read this:

my responce (https://web.archive.org/web/20050118095050/http://www.gamezilla.com/users/reviews.aspx?review=7698)

then please register there and add a responce yourself.  I plan to take a screen shot and send it to that reviewer.
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Post by: Luweeg64 on December 14, 2003, 12:52:06 AM
lol what was that guy on......he musta been enjected with the idiot serum
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Post by: Zircon on December 14, 2003, 05:52:32 AM
Only some people get to see the "light" and he isnt one of them...
Outpost 2 isnt a game built for everyone...

This guy says it's slow, Meanwhile on the forum people complains "waah i dont have enough time" and lowers the speed to one hehehe  B)
I love op2  :P  
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Post by: BlackBox on December 14, 2003, 08:47:56 AM
I agree with you, CK. Maybe the guy that wrote that was too stupid to find the speed settings?!

Sure, games take a bit longer with OP2, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun to play.

OP2 is nice because it doesn't have a pop limit, unlike other games. (You could theoretically have 1000's of tanks)

Also, the game is sort of frustrating when you first start playing... It takes a lot longer than 35 hours to learn the game well. Once you know for example, the researches, etc. you can really go.
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Post by: CK9 on December 14, 2003, 12:14:24 PM
He needs to get that stick out of his (word removed for my protection)
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Post by: CK9 on December 14, 2003, 01:02:52 PM
Who's mxsimgames ?
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Post by: xfir on December 14, 2003, 01:16:46 PM
That would be op2hacker, because that is his email address.
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Post by: CK9 on December 14, 2003, 01:21:41 PM
I'm glad he didn't lose control.
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Post by: BlackBox on December 14, 2003, 03:04:33 PM
lol.
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Post by: CK9 on December 14, 2003, 03:12:01 PM
Hi hacker, you were a little harsh, considereing the graphics of the time
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Post by: plymoth45 on December 14, 2003, 03:46:14 PM
these people just don't know wht they r talking about, the only other review i have read gave op2 a rave review, 5 outta 5 stars, i think ur right about that review being biased garbage hacker.
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Post by: Betaray on December 14, 2003, 05:46:14 PM
omg, the dude says hes played op2 for 35 hrs, and he still doenst know what a convec is lol

nowonder he gave it a bad rating, its a stratigy game and he has an iq of 40
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Post by: BlackBox on December 15, 2003, 03:15:31 PM
well, as far as the graphics goes, I do have a very *VERY* slight objection to op2's graphics.... first of all they are stored inefficiently (bitmaps = big file) also the animations are a little long to run (like not the ambient ones, but the docks probably could go a wee bit faster)


Yeah the guy hasn't had enough OP2 experience..

By the way, he didn't even MENTION multiplayer in that review? did he? well there ya go, thats by far what makes the game fun.
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Post by: CK9 on December 15, 2003, 03:25:47 PM
only when you win.
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Post by: Zircon on December 15, 2003, 03:35:38 PM
*cough* hehe, umm, i enjoy singleplayer more then multi...  :heh:  :blush:  
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Post by: BlackBox on December 15, 2003, 03:36:26 PM
Single player is OK but the AI is too predictable.
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Post by: plymoth45 on December 15, 2003, 05:02:59 PM
i like multi better then single, u don't ever know wht ur opponent is going to do like u do in single.
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Post by: CK9 on December 15, 2003, 08:13:14 PM
tell me more about this predictability.

*prepares to take notes*
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Post by: Betaray on December 16, 2003, 01:32:23 PM
if you are on hard, the enemy sends out a huge force to kill you, can you most likely cant survive more than 3

theres perdictibility for you
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Post by: BlackBox on December 16, 2003, 02:59:20 PM
Well, for example on missions like the #4 in the campaign, the enemy units start out in the exact same spot every time.

On #7, the waves are predictable.. same number and type of units each time, and the wave comes from the same place each time.
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Post by: Betaray on December 16, 2003, 06:08:15 PM
hacker, are you good at AI?  if you are, than mabe you could help knux and garrett build their game

on another note, the AI is compensated by the huge waves they throw at you, expecially on the hard level, it dosnt matter how perdictible they are, if you cant defend against it
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Post by: BlackBox on December 17, 2003, 04:01:16 PM
Yes and no... I know how AI systems work... they run in a loop over and over, detecting for changes in the players.... like for example, say in C++:

Code: [Select]
while (true) {
  if (player1.hasBuiltFactory == true) {
    ai.destroyFactory();
  }
}

See what I mean?

generally games use a "personality" system to determine what it does when another player takes an action...

For attacks the AI should take into account the number and how powerful the units coming are..... maybe scan the map into "zones" and check each zone nearby the base for attacks, etc.
 
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Post by: selfdestruct on January 20, 2004, 11:50:06 PM
(thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown)  (thumbsdown) in just plain words ( The Biggest Dumb@$$ In the world) stupid can even describe that critic, sorry "want too be critic"  

He just made me so pissed off..............
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Post by: CK9 on January 21, 2004, 09:03:35 AM
I wonder what Paco's responce to this would be?
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Post by: Betaray on January 21, 2004, 07:08:31 PM
nuke him

(see thats an example of a simple short post that has alot of meaning in it)
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Post by: CK9 on January 21, 2004, 07:28:20 PM
And that is completely useless.
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 22, 2004, 09:37:26 AM
well, ask him to read it and giv eus his opinion.
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Post by: CK9 on January 22, 2004, 02:55:54 PM
I don't know how to contact him.
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Post by: Betaray on January 22, 2004, 06:48:40 PM
if he was in a clan we could probly get his email from the clans home page
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Post by: CK9 on January 22, 2004, 08:16:20 PM
he was a bit of a lone person
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Post by: Betaray on January 22, 2004, 08:18:07 PM
hmm, well we have the forums on google, we just have to hope he gets bord one day and searches for op2
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Post by: xfir on January 22, 2004, 08:20:41 PM
He should see the link every time he visits the IRC channel.. not only that but he IS registered here. Whether or not he visits is entirely up to him.

As for the topic, this is related (getting back-up, so to speak) so I'll let it slide.
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Post by: Betaray on January 22, 2004, 08:25:17 PM
so, other than physical terrism to the company, how would we defeat it?
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Post by: xfir on January 22, 2004, 08:26:09 PM
Petition them to change the review? Send the author an email about how good OP2 really is... Something along this line.
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Post by: Betaray on January 22, 2004, 08:27:51 PM
I was thinking of more along the line of cybor terrism
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Post by: selfdestruct on January 23, 2004, 10:02:07 AM
Why don't we send them a model of a super nova lynx and have it spray out a can of shaving cream, to presaude the that critic nicely to change his review  :whistle: ,inside the scaving cream center we have a well written letter also.  
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 23, 2004, 11:30:04 AM
How about we take the same supernova idea, except that instead of having shaving cream come out when it explodes, have it infect the reviewers comp with a virus when it explodes.
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Post by: BlackBox on January 23, 2004, 11:53:05 AM
well I am an #outpost2 chanop... I do regularly check the topic to make sure it says *something* about Outpost Universe.
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Post by: CK9 on January 23, 2004, 02:58:12 PM
I contacted them and asked them to forward an email to him, but I think they decided not to because it was worded, uh, "strongly"
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Post by: Betaray on January 23, 2004, 04:25:13 PM
lol, those guys are probly afried of us lol, they made a bad review because they didnt know that there were people like us around, now knowing that theres 100+ people that want to kick his butt, be better be scared lol
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Post by: CK9 on January 23, 2004, 06:38:46 PM
one  persone gave an N/A
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 23, 2004, 06:42:00 PM
uh, um, wht was with that last post on that review?
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Post by: CK9 on January 23, 2004, 06:45:59 PM
Who did that one?
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 23, 2004, 10:29:29 PM
Silento did that one i think.
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 02:01:52 PM
I do not know who this silento is.
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 24, 2004, 03:01:58 PM
neither do i, i guess it is time to start looking.
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 05:50:06 PM
If you find anything, let me know, okay?
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 24, 2004, 07:43:30 PM
I think this silento may have been SilentoBoborachi, but i'm not completely sure about it, we will have to ask him next time he gets on.
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 08:04:42 PM
Who is that?
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Post by: JustLooking on January 24, 2004, 08:14:02 PM
Did you guys notice the date that review was made?  Granted... he was an ignorant fool who doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground... but after 4  years chances are the guy doesn't even work for that site anymore.  OP2 will always be top notch in my book but it is rather passe...  
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 08:17:13 PM
You don't get the point here.  Time does not matter, as long as the bad reviews are out there, people whom we recomend the game to will find them and it will affect their decision of whether or not to try to find it.
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Post by: JustLooking on January 24, 2004, 08:20:35 PM
I get that point but if you recommend the game to someone chances are you are friends with that person and they would believe you not some moron reviewer who didn't even give it a chance.  It's hard to find a copy nowadays anyway although ebay has  a few.  
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 08:25:46 PM
You've never met my friends if you think that.  They need 3 sources for a point to be proven to them.
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Post by: JustLooking on January 24, 2004, 08:28:49 PM
Send them to the PA page. Show them the list of players that like(d) it.
Just don't tell them that most of them have deserted it now.  :heh:  
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 08:30:39 PM
They've already seen the bad reviews that outnumber the PA site members.  They won't listen to me anymore about it.
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Post by: JustLooking on January 24, 2004, 08:36:04 PM
It's truly not a game for everyone.  It takes a certain "mentality" to find it entertaining.  OP takes a lot of micro managing and thinking.  So many gamers are impatient.  They want a quick game.  Who would ever find a 4 hour game of SC fun... while many of us avid OP'ers loved one like that.  Then again.. maybe it wasn't the game that was so enticing.. perhaps it was the friends that were made in the process.   B)  
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 08:43:28 PM
okay, now you're just sidestepping the subject by changing it.  sure it isn't a game for everyone, but IKFAF that my friends would have like it.
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Post by: JustLooking on January 24, 2004, 09:16:11 PM
I do not see how I am sidestepping the subject or changing it.. but no matter. It appears by your tone... if one can ascertain tone on a message board... that I have offended you.  That was not my intention.  As a matter of fact I too was going to post a review disagreeing with the gamesite reviewer until I saw the date he posted.  I was just wondering if anyone else saw the date.
BTW, what is IKFAF?
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Post by: plymoth45 on January 24, 2004, 11:22:38 PM
If u want to know who silento is, lok through our member list and look at his profile, i know i saw him on once, i think he was the one looking for the floppy, or the entire game of OP1, one of the two.

Yes, i did see the date, and i'm with CK9 on this, the time it has been there means nothing as long as the bad reviews are out there. People have to try the game before they can have an opinion on it, not just read the review and have an opinion on the game. A lot of people are like that, they will read the review, and take the opinion on that review and make it their own.
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Post by: CK9 on January 24, 2004, 11:44:00 PM
IKFAF = I Know For A Fact
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Post by: AI_v3.2 on March 03, 2004, 04:35:08 PM
i Agree with you guys see cause i love rts games and trust me i Play alot and to me Outpost 2 is 1 on my list over tiberian sun  :Cool:  
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Post by: CK9 on March 03, 2004, 06:45:49 PM
rts?

OP2 is classified as a stratedgy
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Post by: xfir on March 03, 2004, 07:13:55 PM
RTS = Real Time Strategy.

Op2 is a RTS whereas Civ, for instance, is a TBS (Turn Based Strategy).
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Post by: CK9 on March 03, 2004, 07:46:57 PM
too many sub-genre
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Post by: plymoth45 on March 03, 2004, 09:42:13 PM
are you kidding? the only games i really play anymore aer RTS and FPS games.
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Post by: Kiith Somtaaw on March 03, 2004, 09:50:20 PM
As do I,

Such as Outpost2, Warzone 2100, Halo: Combat Evolved

Halo Is my Favourite.




 
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Post by: CK9 on March 03, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
I play stratedgy, puzzle, FPS, and the occasional RPG
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Post by: xfir on March 04, 2004, 10:40:27 AM
Okay, this is far enough from the topic. Please resume the torture.. uh.. right.. of the company.
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Post by: plymoth45 on March 04, 2004, 12:20:58 PM
oh yea, thats right, so, do you think the company even watches the topic anymore since it all of a sudden became active?
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Post by: BlackBox on March 04, 2004, 02:03:32 PM
Quote
I do not know who this silento is.
In regards to this...

I think its SilentoBobarachi. (Look in the member list)
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Post by: plymoth45 on March 04, 2004, 06:51:42 PM
so do I, and do you think the company even watches the topic?
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Post by: mustang09-06 on April 09, 2004, 01:00:25 PM
That guy was a real crack head we should show him how to play online and kick his butt big time.  That'll show him



lol

 :P  
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Post by: CK9 on April 09, 2004, 03:02:05 PM
nice new avatar.

let's find that guy.
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Post by: op2lover on August 30, 2004, 07:13:57 PM
*salutes
i shall begin spammin there email box immedaitly does 7000 emails sound unfair.
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Post by: PlayingOutpost0-24 on August 31, 2004, 08:03:57 AM
u mean... e-mail flooding?

also i posted a legal attack on Gamezilla :P
see my review. before they remove it...
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Post by: op2lover on August 31, 2004, 10:20:54 AM
yes i will spam there email box so much that it crahses there server  :) problem is my usal spam server went down so now i need to find another email server tht allows mutiple messaging
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Post by: PlayingOutpost0-24 on August 31, 2004, 11:10:34 AM
hmmm... i dunno i have seen a PHP (or was it PERL?) e-mail flooder...