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Projects & Development => GORF => Hall of Fame => Topic started by: Combine Crusier on March 26, 2007, 07:51:16 AM

Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Combine Crusier on March 26, 2007, 07:51:16 AM
This is the vehicle that will annoy you cliff dwellers.

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Statistics:Flea-J
Size: Scorpion
HP:240
Armor: Renforced Light
FP:Microwave-laser hybrid cannon +Rapid discharge = +80% ROF
SFP:Uses hydrolic pumping system to jump up cliff faces
Speed:Fast
Common Ore:undecided
Rare Ore:undecided

This is good for when people hide on plateau's and allows you to secure a zone for construction of a lift (if either is added).

The rapid discharge is a system that uses the weapons fusion reactor by powering several capacitors and them discharging them in rapid succession while charging the ones that were just fired thus creating a form of machine gun which makes the weapon more of a threat to hostile units. So if you use a squad of these you stand a good chance of winning against a patrol of enemy units.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Savant 231-A on March 26, 2007, 10:55:14 AM
Maybe this would work if:

This was a only scorpion

That it has an actual machine gun with real bullets, and that he was a little bit bigger and stronger.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: zanco on March 26, 2007, 04:36:39 PM
This might actually work.
How about making this "Flea-J feature" an upgrade of a scorpion instead of just making another unit?
 
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: White Claw on March 26, 2007, 07:43:00 PM
Interesting concept. It would definitely change some basing strategies.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Freeza-CII on March 27, 2007, 01:20:12 AM
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Microwave-laser hybrid cannon

First off what is that i have seen it in a few posts

And now you really dont need to jump up cliff faces like a billy goat if you can drive  hydralic ram into the cliff face and literally walk up the wall.  I would like to point out if you had enough power to do that with a hydralic system you could of put that into a long range Indirect fire weapon. and not worry about going to them lol.  This could work i just dont like the jump part of it.  It sounds like it needs to be a climbing action but still machine like.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: White Claw on March 27, 2007, 06:14:19 PM
You could almost simply add another tech research for a spider to climb vertical faces...
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Arklon on March 27, 2007, 07:42:37 PM
Microwave-laser hybrid? That's 2/3 of a HERC Projector (what the meteor defense uses). (In case you're wondering, the remaining 1/3 is a particle projector.)
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Combine Crusier on March 30, 2007, 08:04:15 AM
Ahhh. Agreed.. I think.

So instead this would be an upgrade that allows the scorpion to use hydralic rams to gain a hold in the side of a cliff and walk up it (this would be much slower though).

So.
Statistics:Scorpion II
Size: Scorpion
HP:240
Armor: Renforced Light
FP:Microwave-laser hybrid cannon +Rapid discharge = +80% ROF
SFP:Uses hydrolic ramming systems to climb up cliff faces
Speed:Fast
Common Ore:undecided
Rare Ore:undecided

What do you think of the weapons upgrade?
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Savant 231-A on March 30, 2007, 09:58:42 AM
my opinion?
No Microwave-laser hybrid cannon,why can't you just insert the chaingun lol.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Combine Crusier on April 02, 2007, 08:22:35 AM
Chainguns aren't exactly going to be useful since they use a explosive charge to fire the projectile at a.... velocity that wouldn't do much damage to a tank in OP2 now maybe a gatling railgun but the power source would be to large for the flea, it's just more feasable to stick to the weapon they developed for it's predecessor the scorpion with some sort of improvement to deal with hostiles better.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Savant 231-A on April 02, 2007, 09:34:39 AM
i didn't mean just the chaingun... machine guns, .50 cal, .30 cal... anything... If you wish that Flea-J stays a "fast" vehicle, you should remove any of these things (laser, rail, rpg...). Why doesn't everyone like the ol' good machine guns with ol' good bullets. LOL.
 
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Combine Crusier on April 03, 2007, 08:22:27 AM
It's simple, yeah the gun maybe lighter but the ammuntion container would have to be large and all the ammo would be heavy. Of course it might work on the larger chassis.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: White Claw on April 03, 2007, 07:19:26 PM
I think we've generally ignored the whole ammunition requirement. Any projectile weapon would need storage for the rounds (RPG, Rail, Sticky, etc...).

BTW: Why is there a "J" on the flea feature/upgrade? There's no "Spider-L".

Could you maybe make a mini rail gun (kinda like the scorpion laser is a mini-laser). It would definitely be weaker than the standard rail gun but perhaps almost as powerful as a laser? Then the mass driver and slugs would be smaller over the standard rail gun.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Freeza-CII on April 03, 2007, 10:44:34 PM
There are such things as firing Sabots which have no trouble of going through armor.  Old technology would work fine look at Plymoth there using a solid boosted shape charge on a stick.  I dont understand why we cant just use the normal laser that is on the scorp.  

 
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Combine Crusier on April 04, 2007, 08:49:04 AM
The J simply stood for (Jump) but since this is now going to be a scorpion upgrade that is irrelevant. AHHHHHHHHHH! Perhaps we could use weapons selections on the scorpions just like they did on the lynx's.

Say Freeza didn't you suggest a gatling gun called the Orgin Pipe?
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Savant 231-A on April 05, 2007, 01:04:34 AM
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Old technology would work fine look at Plymoth there using a solid boosted shape charge on a stick.
RPG Rockz! B)

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I dont understand why we cant just use the normal laser that is on the scorp.

Well... we can use the laser too....
Though i liked guns more.... :(
 
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Freeza-CII on April 05, 2007, 03:52:57 AM
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Say Freeza didn't you suggest a gatling gun called the Orgin Pipe?

If you mean the pipe organ that is a weapon that does not belong in any game.  One of the other guns i sugested was a Vulcan Chain Gun.


The reason you would use the laser that is already fitted for the scorp is its more effective in a smaller version then a small projectile weapon would be.  Laser better then bullets in small form weapons.  Mostly the reason why the arachnid units dont mount the weapons a lynx can is because the power needed for these weapons  the only weapons that really wouldnt take much power is the RPG all you need to do is ignite the rocket fuel.  But then the turrets of the tanks are the size of a spider.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Combine Crusier on April 25, 2007, 08:59:13 AM
I agree with you on that post........

Projectile or more powerful weapons weren't meant to be put on something that small. It's like trying to put a rail gun on a HUMV.
Title: The Flea-j
Post by: Pirogoeth on May 03, 2007, 09:19:14 AM
Alright, I'm going to take the liberty to say that this, is an awsome idea, however, I think it should be its own unil so the Anarchid factory would be making Spideres, Scorpions and Flea-J's in single and three packs.

Fear the Fleas!