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Outpost Series Games => Outpost 2 Multiplayer => Topic started by: Ezekel on February 25, 2006, 03:44:03 PM

Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: Ezekel on February 25, 2006, 03:44:03 PM: a bit of advice about hamachi:
DON'T install it on a laptop.
it may work on some, but my guess is, due to the differences in the archetecture between a PC and a laptop, hamachi is not necessarily gonna work on one.
(it caused my laptop to have a 1/2 hour boot up - most of which involved sitting on a screen of my desktop, but due to memory being eaten up, nothing could be opened through clicking on it).
anywho, uninstalling it fixed the prob for me.
on a side note, my PC has had no complaints with it so far, so i may attempt to play op2 online through it.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: Leviathan on February 25, 2006, 05:57:38 PM: its nothing to do with it being a laptop im sure.

of chorse ive no idea what the problem was and why there was a problem.

have u tryed installing it again and seeing if it does the problem again?

its fine on the 3 laptops ive used it on.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: HaXtOr on February 25, 2006, 08:33:54 PM: works perfectly fine on my laptop and all of my computers
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: Galactic on February 26, 2006, 03:53:21 AM: Im using it on my laptop right now and it works like a charm. Maybe some other program is conflicting with it?
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: Mez on February 26, 2006, 11:37:33 AM: You do "turn hamachi off" when you log off dont you?

It becomes a network connection when it is turned on. if you leave it on when you shut down, then it will not be "disabled" in the network connections folder. If for some reason the hamachi connection becomes defualt or is added to a list that windows tries to access e.g. to log onto a domain, then it will slow your laptop, or computer for that matter down as it will try to use it.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: Sl0vi on February 26, 2006, 02:54:29 PM: I use a laptop and I have no problem with ham.

It's most likely just your specific laptop acting weird, or ham is conflicting with something.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: Vexhare on February 27, 2006, 12:23:55 AM: Note: Hamachi does not work for Win 98:SE
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: BlackBox on February 27, 2006, 08:03:31 AM: Yeah, Hamachi will not work for any of the 9x / Me based OSes because they use different types of drivers. (Hamachi uses an NT kernel driver, all 9x/Me OSes use VxD drivers)

And yes, Hamachi works even on my horrible old dell laptop I have.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: leeor_net on February 27, 2006, 09:08:31 AM: The hardware differences between a laptop and PC aren't very different; They're just more compact. The issue you're having is software related.

Hamachi functions by creating a virtual network connection. Slow startup times means that Hamachi is having trouble creating, or rather reestablishing, a network connection. If you're running Windows XP, chances are it's adversly reacting with a network service trying to use the same resources Hamachi is.

Your best bet is to just leave it off the laptop OR have Hamachi start up only when you ask it to. I never have Hamachi start with Windows. Actually, I don't have a lot of things start with Windows. My desktop PC, for instance, is very fast. However, when I have AIM and YIM start up with windows, it can take a full 20 minuts or so before it's finished loading and is actually usable. So I just turned off the two from starting until I tell them to load. Problem solved. It now only takes about a minute to full start.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: CK9 on June 07, 2006, 10:33:34 AM: it works just as good on my laptop as my desktops, of course, I doubled my RAM before I had to get to college, lol
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: HaXtOr on June 07, 2006, 10:58:32 AM: the problem with laptops is this.
wireless cards operate at 54 mb/sec
100T network cards in pcs run at 2 x that speed
so wireless cards will lag more then if you are useing a 100t network on your pc
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: BlackBox on June 07, 2006, 11:49:22 AM: it won't make any difference though since your internet connection is the bottleneck. (even if it's 3mb / sec). You'll never saturate your LAN bandwidth unless you're transferring files inside the LAN. Traffic going into / out of the internet won't travel faster than the speed of the net connection.

And regarding hamachi, it's worked on every computer i've tried it on so far.
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: thablkpanda on June 07, 2006, 07:48:39 PM: I never turn my computers off - only time they reboot is when I have issues, or when the UPS fails, the transfer switch on the generators fail after a power loss (which hasn't happened yet), or when I install a printer (it's just one of the things I do..).

So I never have startup issues. When I reboot, i reboot all the systems in the office.

-Chris
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: CK9 on June 07, 2006, 08:38:02 PM: now if only you could wire them together in such a way that would allow you to rebbot them all at once with one switch without bringing any danger to any of the systems
Title: Warning - Hamachi
Post by: BlackBox on June 08, 2006, 10:44:19 AM: You could use wake on lan so you could boot them up remotely from another computer (perhaps even from somewhere else on the internet).