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Outpost Series Games => Outpost 2 Divided Destiny => Topic started by: Sirbomber on January 25, 2006, 06:20:15 PM

Title: Uber Scorp!
Post by: Sirbomber on January 25, 2006, 06:20:15 PM

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/Sirbomber/UberScorp.png)

I want that.

Note: the name is "Damage of EMP Missile Scorpion" and it works nicely.

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Post by: HaXtOr on January 25, 2006, 07:14:31 PM

if you edit the tech trees you can probably make it available in the Anarchid (spelling?) factory...  

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Post by: Leviathan on January 26, 2006, 04:21:46 AM

ive never seen that

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Post by: siqueule on January 26, 2006, 06:00:06 AM

maybe he has superimpose several images...

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Post by: BlackBox on January 26, 2006, 08:07:35 AM

He set the weapon to the emp blast, I think.

And, no, you can't add it by editing the techtree because it would have to count as a totally different unit altogether.

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Post by: Leviathan on January 26, 2006, 09:28:26 AM

since wen did emp blasts look like that

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Post by: thablkpanda on January 26, 2006, 01:42:04 PM

IMO it's simulating multiple repetitive EMP missle blasts on that same position.

We could test to see if it's really simulating, or actually 'doing' by setting up eden observatories and missle defense and seeing if that stops them- which I seriously doubt.

It's a truly amazing weapon. I'd much rather see it on a different platform, but other than that it definitely has potential, I'd like to see it implemented.

It only does EMP 'damage' in the area that you see enamating, not the area closest to the scorpion. The problem with that is unless you're constantly firing, one microwave lynx could destroy your scorp just by sneaking in.

He also has some 'supernova' scorpions that are too cool to play with. Move it in, and back the rest of your units at least 15 tiles back, because it has major fallout.

I'd release the DLL he created, but I dunno if he want's it public yet. But I'd incorporate this into the game if it's possible- it definitely seems to be what we're looking for in the plymouth department- to offset Thor's Hammer's incredible impact. Of course some players like Starfox seem to take advantage of the EMP missle- and fire them in rapid succession... but I'm not here to complain- sorry..

Chris

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Post by: siqueule on January 26, 2006, 01:47:56 PM

a supernova scorpion?  <_<  is not necessary to exaggerate, the supernova turret must be too much heavy  :blush:
maybe with one of the little cylinder, that would do a starfire scorpion :op2:  

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Post by: thablkpanda on January 26, 2006, 01:53:49 PM

lmao

That was funny- but true if we're talking about real-world physics, supernova turrets have been shown comprable to normal turrets (it can be placed on a lynx) so why can't the New Terreans throw supernovas on scorpions like the Plymoutheans threw lasers on scorpions?

Makes enough sense to me.. 3 way syllogism logic.

Panda

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Post by: Leviathan on January 26, 2006, 02:10:36 PM

You should release the dll and the source code, just not untill the reunion :)

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Post by: Arklon on January 26, 2006, 03:34:29 PM

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You should release the dll and the source code, just not untill the reunion :)

It's a very simple change in CreateUnit (as you can specify weapon type in that function)... <_< No point in waiting until the reunion.

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Post by: HaXtOr on January 26, 2006, 03:42:57 PM

didn't I post on this in the codeing part of the forum??? isnt this topic a little out of place?


BTW a mapAtheistBuildingExplosion is much much much more distructive in a Scorpion then the mapSupernova2

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Post by: Sirbomber on January 26, 2006, 03:44:09 PM

It's not exactly rocket science kiddies...

EMP Super-Blast Scorpion:

Code: [Select]

{  X,   Y, mapScorpion,  	mapBlast, 7},

"Supernova" (AthBldgExpl) Scorpion:

Code: [Select]

{  X,   Y, mapScorpion,  	mapAtheistBuildingExplosion, 7},

Kinda Useless Scoprion:

Code: [Select]

{  X,   Y, mapScorpion,  	mapInterColonyShuttle, 7},

It draws the Inter Colony Transport over the Scorpion and makes the Rocket Launch noise a lot. I thought it sounded like artilley or something.
(You don't start with these on the map, make them in your own map!)

Feel free to give it to whomever you want Panda...
Just be warned you can't build them and only start with a limited supply!

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Post by: Freeza-CII on January 26, 2006, 04:02:20 PM

Ya this emp super f*** em up scorp is nice but does plymoth really need a weapon that cant be stoped.

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Post by: Sirbomber on January 26, 2006, 07:31:35 PM

Well, Eden and Plymouth start with it in this map, since you can't build 'em anyways.
That's why it's fair. If it was a REAL unit it'd suck.

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Post by: dm-horus on January 27, 2006, 01:18:42 PM

emp bomb is a good idea but i think it would work better in the style of the supernova weapon. putting it on a lynx makes more sense than on a scorpion.

maybe we can make the Eden Flea Unit while we're at it? its so small the enemy cant even see it but when it detonates it destroys everything in a 2 screen radius. how cool is that? its not like its totally throwing the game out of balance or anything. it even works with the novella ;);););)

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Post by: siqueule on January 27, 2006, 01:23:08 PM

a emp bomb it's as a tokamak!
but the tokamak is very heavy and encumbering...

that would be a enormous bomb  <_<  

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Post by: Sirbomber on January 27, 2006, 01:54:23 PM

Don't question how or why it works... just accept it.
It doesn't exactly bend to the laws of physics. It's a game after all.

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Post by: thablkpanda on January 27, 2006, 02:35:37 PM

Anyway...

I thought about it- and realized it's kinda pointless (I'm a huge hypocrite).

Plymouth already has a supernova- if you can get an enemy's units to stand still long enough to get supernova'ed, then they can have this weapon used on them surely. So it's six of one- and half a dozen of another.

However hot the EMP thing is, we're having enough controversy over Plymouth and EMP's as it is- I dont' think bringing an easier method of EMP Spamming into the mix will help much either.

Chris.

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Post by: Highlander on January 27, 2006, 04:58:53 PM

Since you don't want to replace the emp missile, how about reducing the Scorpions EMP blast range to that of a Supoernove ?

That way it won't replace the missile entirely, just add in a new unit.

Cost and speed would have to be tested though.

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Post by: Sirbomber on January 27, 2006, 06:18:49 PM

How's about we leave this little idea for an OP2 mod, alright?
I don't want to add or replace anything in the normal game... I just think it's fun to use on special maps.

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Post by: dm-horus on January 28, 2006, 12:47:27 PM

well once we actually GET some mods i think someone needs to make a mod utility that lets you start the game with whatever mods you want activated. fiddling with files and ini's is just gonna frustrate ppl.

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Post by: Tellaris on February 03, 2006, 02:56:56 AM

As stated in a description at some point in the game, (I forget where), the weapon on the scorpion is actually an enlarged hand rifle.   Not a full blown, laser powered gun.

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Post by: Hooman on February 03, 2006, 06:20:34 PM

... and from a technical persepective, the stats on the "energy cannon" that scorpions use is much weaken then other weapons, such as lasers. That and it's a seperate weapon internally. Plus the sound file for it firing sounds kinda pathetic. Seems more like something you'd scratch yourself with.
 

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Post by: Sirbomber on February 03, 2006, 06:49:49 PM

We should have more games where we just have Scorp Fights. That'd be fun.

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Post by: Mcshay on February 03, 2006, 10:25:37 PM

That reminds me of the old scorp wars games on won...

*relives his won days*

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Post by: Betaray on February 03, 2006, 11:28:28 PM

could you make a gametype where both eden and ply have access to the scorp, and thats the only combat unit they can make?

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Post by: Leviathan on February 04, 2006, 05:19:18 AM

yep