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Off Topic => Computers & Programming General => Topic started by: Leviathan on January 05, 2006, 06:23:12 PM
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I know a few ppl will have pics of their comps :)
This is my current main comp. 7 internal HDD's, 2 HDD caddys, DVD Drive, Raid card, PCI gfx card, PCI fan and 8 case fans.
(http://www.leviathan.outpostuniverse.net/images/comp5.jpg)
My new case for my new file server is the great Antec P180 :D
(http://www.outpostuniverse.net/leviathan/images/antecp180.jpg)
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its very pro!
Are those 2 fans on the right even doing anything?
I should post a pic of my computer but i'll do that next time i crack the case open.
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All the fans were on in that pic, the comp was on, u can tell cuz of the blue led light. Its a very noisy comp.
And some old pics from old comp.
(http://leviathan.outpostuniverse.net/images/comp1.jpg)
(http://leviathan.outpostuniverse.net/images/comp2.jpg)
(http://leviathan.outpostuniverse.net/images/comp3.jpg)
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Here's a pic of the inside of my PC when I installed a fan the other day.
It's not that great however (the CPU is a P3 700 mhz coppermine). I don't like the case at all. (Poor ventilation, and sorta cramped. Although it's not that big of an issue because my CPU and GPU run pretty cool).
(http://www.outpostuniverse.net/hacker/insidepc.jpg)
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Here's some pics of the exterior/interior of my computer:
(http://www.neptunetech.net/images/mycomp/side.jpg)
(http://www.neptunetech.net/images/mycomp/rear_three_quarter.jpg)
(http://www.neptunetech.net/images/mycomp/inside_profile.jpg)
The middle image is grainy because I took it without the flash and a slow shutter speed. Thought I could pull more information out of it but eh, go figure. It gives a generally good view. Also, the colored glow is not exagerated... it actually glows like that in the dark... :)
Also, I noticed that the fan blades are crystal clear (no motion blur). They actually do move (otherwise I'd have lost a lot of hardware a long time ago)... the camera's shutter speed was a hell of a lot faster than I thought it would be.
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(http://www.freeza.outpostuniverse.net/images/FILE0004.JPG)
cant really see much because of the big ass 110 volt fans :P doesnt have the removable bays in it tho. With the bays i got room for 8 HDDS.
OMG hacker is that a Gateway lol. I work on those kinda computers all the time with there slot one processors lol.
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Quality case there Leeor :) The grey mobo looks real nice.
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Thank you, Levi... :) It's actually platinum but that's ok :heh:
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I posted these on my website also but, anyways here it is :). The computer isn't done yet cuz I gots to buy 3 more TV tuners (including a HD tuner w00t) and have a contractor build a Media Room and mount my Projector so I can turn my 505watt Speakers to the max with-out peoples yelling at me :heh:
(http://moogleforest.net/photogallery/DSC00121.JPG)
Here's a close up
(http://moogleforest.net/photogallery/DSC00117.JPG)
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Very nice case and comp there :D
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Thanks :) and yes thats my computers Subwoffer down on the floor just in case anybody was thinking that. And... no thats not me sitting at the comp with the spogebob slippers it's my sister :P. I've spent around $1,500 on it so far and still isn't done ><
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If you had a PCI-e slot and waited, you could've gotten a Radeon X1900XTX and you'd have spent $1850 total :P
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anyone ever ben to www.frozencpu.com ?
I worked there for 3 weeks once ^_^... but sadly I was laied off because of a management scandal with Computer usa.
I sould post pics of my computers they are uber and totaly modded out. I made my server's case, its 100% rack mountable and 100% made by me from scrap metal
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Looks to be a 8 or 10 inch sub I got 2 6.5 inch and a 10
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It's a 10in sub. The whole set when I bring it to full kind of hurts my body and shakes the house (no joke). I almost never take it pass 1/3 volume. Look up the specs of the speakers they pwn ^^. PCI-E is overrated. 90% of games and software can't use such power so I'll wait until there are games that can deal a blow in performace to such cards before I upgrade. Only game i've seen that can do that is FEAR. I can hardly play that game on my comp at medium settings. I'll sell my x850XTPE to my friend and buy that Geforce 7800GS thats gonna come out for AGP. Or should I wait a little bit longer I hear ATI might make a PCI-E to AGP bridge for their Highend x1800+ series cards.
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PCI-E is overrated. 90% of games and software can't use such power so I'll wait until there are games that can deal a blow in performace to such cards before I upgrade. Only game i've seen that can do that is FEAR. I can hardly play that game on my comp at medium settings. I'll sell my x850XTPE to my friend and buy that Geforce 7800GS thats gonna come out for AGP. Or should I wait a little bit longer I hear ATI might make a PCI-E to AGP bridge for their Highend x1800+ series cards.
Wait. For one thing, ATi's AA scheme is programmable (unlike nVidia's), so you can use floating-point (or whatever it was called) HDR and AA at the same time. NVidia's cards can't.
As for PCI-e being overrated, currently, that is true, but in the future, it will be useful (when multi-core GPU's really start making a difference and when we get into holographic (which can display true 3D images) displays).
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I had to turn off all the lights, take the pic at night, and slow down the shutter speed of the digi cam for this o.O. btw I had to remove my x850xtpe from this comp and put it on the computer to the right because there was a video card incompatibility issue with its new mobo which I posted on these forums a while back xD. I need a tripod ._.
(http://moogleforest.net/photogallery/DSC00134.JPG)
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Great blue fan in the back there :D
Looking sweet~!
My file server is built now and it rox, need to get a pic of it ;)
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i hate lights inside computers. :P
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DON'T get the 7800GS AGP. It's almost exactly like a 6800 ultra. Not impressive at all. (Though the 7800GS's average framerate is higher than the 6800U's, frame rate diagrams show little differences, except in BADLY coded pixel shaders (F.E.A.R.'s soft shadows)). That, and the colors produced by nVidia cards are cartoony when compared to ATi's...
Edit: And you went and ordered it already. >:O
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My X850XTPE is more powerful then the 6800Ultra. But the thing is both the X850XTPE and 6800Ultra are extremely rare. I sold my X850XTPE to my friend for $420 and got this card (which is even faster) for $325 with shipping. Can't even find many places that sell 6800Ultra's that are AGP and for less then $500!? I find this as a very good investment when you consider that my computer is getting older and older.
I find that Athlon64/FX chips aren't even that noticeable for my uses. Windows Vista can run very well on my computer when it comes out. The Most powerful Computer (for it's age) is what I'm looking for without having to use massive money for minimal performance gain.
I also forgot to mention that most of the features on the 6800Ultra that it was supposed to have are broken or not working at all (Pure Video anybody). The Geforce 7800GS I've ordered is supposed to perform just a little under the Geforce 7800GT at stock which can't be used in an AGP system. Need I even mention the fact that the Geforce 6800Ultra has an overheating problem and that the X850XTPE uses a lot of electricity?
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eBay. :P
Unfortunately, me moving from my current AGP setup to a PCI-e setup would require a new processor as well (can't find socket 478 PCI-e motherboards anywhere, even though they do exist), and a new video card of course (unless someone makes an adapter that allows you to put an AGP card in a PCI-e slot that can work with normal size cards). Maybe I'll magically get a generic wad of cash.
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i doubt such a adapter would ever be made beacause of the position of the cardslot openings and mounting of the card to secure it. Yes i know you can cut the back of your case to make it work but is that really worth it. People just have to suck it up and buy new computer parts. I will Convert my computer to a PCI e mobo this year or next year.
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I'd have a picture of my computer, but the case I ordered came broken (need to RMA it... THE PROCESS TAKES TOO f***ING LONG >_<) and my digital camera's broken.
Hacker, if you think that case is cramped, you should see the inside of my damn Dell Dimension 3000 case @_@ Bad ventilation and it only supports MicroATX size motherboards.
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Well considering that hacker has like the lowest end computer on here lol.
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Ok... Before everybody starts going (OT) Read this and understand why this card is better then most AGP cards. Please remember that the card that I purchesed is the same one as in the review but they underclocked it to 430Mhz instead of the cards normal speed of 460Mhz. This card is amazing I been reading on what people have done with the card. They say that this card can do 490 - 500Mhz easy and the memory up to 1.415Ghz. At those clocks the 7800GS Superclock is almost as fast as a 7800GT (almost).
FiringSquad GeForce 7800GS Superclock review (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7800_gs_co_superclock_review/default.asp)
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Its fianally done after a modest 1,300 hundered us doller , selling of old comp , going with out a comp for 3 weeks , countless hours of picing ou tthe best componets , shipping time a 24 hour allnighter build time for perfection = one hell of a piece of machineray!!! :D :rolleyes: :lol:
specs
PENTIUM D 920 /2.8G/FB800 2X2MB CACH
CORSAIR XMS PRO 1 GIG
ASUS P5N32-SLI DELUXE
BFG GEFORCE 7800 GT OC 256MB EDITION
SOUNDBLASTER AUDIGY2
ULTRA CONNECT 2 550 WATT MODULAR POWERSUPPLY
LG CDRW/DVD DRIVE
XOXIDE CASE , 5 QUAD WHITE LED FANS , 2 COLD CATHS WHITE , TWO BOOT TOGGLES
SAITECK ECLISPE KEYBOARD / RAZER COPPERHEAD MOUSE
(thumbsup) HOPE TO GET ONE MORE BFG SOON (thumbsup)
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http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=53pz.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=53pz.jpg)
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61ch.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61ch.jpg)
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Oprime ya in 64bit mode?
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hehe I'll get a bunch of pics of my computer and all the other ones in the house here.... we used to have a P1 ^^. I bet you guys would love to see the number of SCSI slots on that (ewwwwwww)
hehe
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PENTIUM D 920 /2.8G/FB800 2X2MB CACH
Shouldn't have gone Intel. Lower FSB speed, still trying to get their 64 bit thing right, consumes more power than AMD processors,...
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Ya intel's really struck out lately, and who really knows if theyll recover.
1st: the P4, which old designs (PIII) are continuing to own (Pentium M) at lower clockspeeds, not to mention the amd64 procs
2nd: 64 bit mode is duct-taped on so to speak, it isnt fundemnetaly part of the processor, unlike amd64.
3rd: dual core, again a duct-taped on "feature". amd64 x2 processors are designed from the ground up to utilize dual core, for example a high speed chip-to-chip bus, while intel its just 2 procs on a chip rly
and a ironic twist is that with the next core thats coming out in who-knows-when will not utilize the P4 core. They essentialy said "We f***ed up.", by doing that.
2 other things: SATA vs. PATA and AGP vs. PCIE.
In both cases no chip/disk mechanism where applicable can saturate the "slower" respective bus (PATA, AGP).
I just dont get what the big whoop is about sata, yeah its smaller cable but thats it. no hd mechanism can saturate ata-100 so you dont need 150mbs/300mbs/etc bandwith. and not to mention it is cheaper to get PATA still.
Similar case with PCIE, nothing can saturate agp8x. Only advantage to getting PCIE is that you can do SLI/CROSSOVER(or whatever ati's thing is called).
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I just thought I'd point out that SATA has more features than increased connection speed (despite the lack of increase in drive speed). I've heard of a few SCSI like capabilities built into SATA devices that you won't find on the older ATA style. Plus, the smaller cable size is reason enough for me. Those old cables can be a real pain when you're trying to upgrade/gut your computer. Oh, and there's no jumper settings for the drives, so you don't have to ever worry about setting master or slave pins.
Oh, and where I live, the SATA drives are significantly cheaper. They're also more widely available. It'd getting pretty hard to find an older ATA drive, and if you do, chances are it's gonna be of a smaller size than what you'll typically see for SATA.
Even if the differences are minor to you, it's still an upgrade. I don't know of anything that's worse about it. Might as well accept the improvements you can.
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Oh, and there's no jumper settings for the drives, so you don't have to ever worry about setting master or slave pins.
Don't forget that most drives have a cable select pin. This allows you to set master/slave from the BIOS, and you won't have to worry about the setting manually.
Oh, and where I live, the SATA drives are significantly cheaper. They're also more widely available. It'd getting pretty hard to find an older ATA drive, and if you do, chances are it's gonna be of a smaller size than what you'll typically see for SATA.
That's true in some places. Where I live it's not really the case (however, in the stores they tend to sell such crap as Western Digital HDDs) ATA is cheaper (actually I'm not sure if I live by any stores that carry SATA drives?).
The area I live in, you may as well say is still in the dark ages of computing. (There is only one broadband ISP in my city).
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Ya intel's really struck out lately, and who really knows if theyll recover.
1st: the P4, which old designs (PIII) are continuing to own (Pentium M) at lower clockspeeds, not to mention the amd64 procs
2nd: 64 bit mode is duct-taped on so to speak, it isnt fundemnetaly part of the processor, unlike amd64.
3rd: dual core, again a duct-taped on "feature". amd64 x2 processors are designed from the ground up to utilize dual core, for example a high speed chip-to-chip bus, while intel its just 2 procs on a chip rly
and a ironic twist is that with the next core thats coming out in who-knows-when will not utilize the P4 core. They essentialy said "We f***ed up.", by doing that.
2 other things: SATA vs. PATA and AGP vs. PCIE.
In both cases no chip/disk mechanism where applicable can saturate the "slower" respective bus (PATA, AGP).
I just dont get what the big whoop is about sata, yeah its smaller cable but thats it. no hd mechanism can saturate ata-100 so you dont need 150mbs/300mbs/etc bandwith. and not to mention it is cheaper to get PATA still.
Similar case with PCIE, nothing can saturate agp8x. Only advantage to getting PCIE is that you can do SLI/CROSSOVER(or whatever ati's thing is called).
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Also funny how the Pentium Extreme Edition is slower than the fastest... Pentium D I think? (I know it was some Intel processor.)
CrossFire (which was made from AMR) is ATi's solution.
Eh, eSata I/II might have uses. But probably not very many, if any at all.
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Ok... Before everybody starts going (OT) Read this and understand why this card is better then most AGP cards. Please remember that the card that I purchesed is the same one as in the review but they underclocked it to 430Mhz instead of the cards normal speed of 460Mhz. This card is amazing I been reading on what people have done with the card. They say that this card can do 490 - 500Mhz easy and the memory up to 1.415Ghz. At those clocks the 7800GS Superclock is almost as fast as a 7800GT (almost).
FiringSquad GeForce 7800GS Superclock review (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7800_gs_co_superclock_review/default.asp)
And the 7800 GS supports Vista. Hmm... TCPA compliant?
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Here's some pics of my compy. (yes crummy case but the inside is what counts ;)
PS: I have a polaroid CD burner o.0
(http://www.stormy.outpostuniverse.net/images/compy%20pics/DSCF0057.JPG)
(http://www.stormy.outpostuniverse.net/images/compy%20pics/DSCF0059.JPG)
(sorry, it's really blurry- I can't hold the camera still -_-)
This is the inside of the case with the lights out:
(http://www.stormy.outpostuniverse.net/images/compy%20pics/DSCF0062.JPG)
(http://www.stormy.outpostuniverse.net/images/compy%20pics/DSCF0064.JPG)
This is a removable HDD case that I put together today (and bought) :D. It's got a 120 GB Seagate Baracuda HDD with an RPM of like 7200 ^^
(http://www.stormy.outpostuniverse.net/images/compy%20pics/DSCF0053.JPG)
(that white thing with the cord hanging off my desk is a microphone that I don't use)
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You should set your camera's shutter speed faster and take ur pics again (so they won't be as blurry)
Polaroid CD burner, still sort of funny :P
I have some no name CD burner in the 2nd bay on my computer, I don't use it at all (I don't trust it). I'll use my Lite On DVD RW to burn cd's. (Although that sounds like a jet taking off when it spins up a CD)
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Ok i have 3 comps i will show.
1st is my unbuilt totally clear case
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8891/comp0016jl.jpg)
close up
(http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/6461/comp0022kf.jpg)
and me holding one of the 7 fans
(http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/6416/comp0039nh.jpg)
sorry their so blurry(i tried to hold still)
my current pc i will show when the images get uploaded
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nice looking. that could look great with lights and in the dark :)
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>:D I'm going to get some new gear for my comp. Moving up to 1024MB of Ram (DDR600 –(o.o) can I have it) and a RAID 5 setup. I had a small bottleneck issue when playing F.E.A.R. My HD can't send textures to the Ram > VRam fast enough for the Geforce or my processor to process. The game staggers each time I move, fire the gun, or bogy's move across the screen. :D it's going to pwn once I have it setup and running
p.s almost forgot... does anybody know how to unlock a athlonXP 3200+ so I can adjust the multiplier. And I've been looking at some sweet phase change setups. o.o 2.8Ghz AthlonXP 3200+ with phase change cooling @ less then 10c