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Community => Feedback/Suggestions/Problems => Topic started by: Tellaris on October 30, 2005, 01:35:23 AM
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Im inquiring as to the general requirements to become an Operator, what is desired, what is the bare minimum.
These are the ones I think that are looked for...
-Knowledge of OP2 Coding
-Maturity
-Knowledge of game play
-Frequent presence
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One question who made requirments.
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Maturity
uhm,, is there ANYone here acting mature ??
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Operator?
are you talking about being a mod?
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im guessing he means ircop/moderator[ they are generaly linked]. and as for "requirements", i would say it would be evaluated on a case-to-case basis.
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Coding isn't necessary. However, the other points are considered.
However... we aren't looking for new ops right now. Like Joe said, we will evaluate people as needed, we don't need extra ops currently.
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Ops doesn't necisarily mean u get mod.
I was Op for like 1.5 years before i became a mod.
and yep there is definatly no set requirements for op or mod, they are both seperate entities
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In my eyes, you need to be mature and set the example. If someone makes you mad, work it out constructively, don't start a big flame war :heh:. You also shouldn't go attacking people and help people know ALL the options they have if they are wanting to get into coding. You should also help the newbies. So, just be a good person and set the example is all I can say :).
I think that once the community gets bigger, there might be a need for more mods, but for now, I think like 8 or whatever it is is plenty. For mods though, after the OPU team has "picked" candidates, shouldn't the community vote like a Democracy on who would make the best moderator (best as in most mature and would do a good job)? (Just an Idea that came to my head)
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Ahh, I guess this is the thread I've heard mention of but couldn't find.
I guess just be a good person, and be around when someone is needed. It's not too often that new people are added as ops. It can be helpful if you know how to do something useful, but not particularly needed. If you're talking about IRC operator, than it's mostly just being around to moderate the channel, and knowing how to do a good job of it. But again, people start complaining when the channel gets too op heavy.
Oh, and what other people would think of the candidate tends to be more important that what the candidate thinks of themselves. Which should go without saying, but still, some people need to be smacked with a large trout in this regards. (I'm not saying anything about people here, but I have seen some people vying for an op position elsewhere and they seemed to be the only person who thought so highly of themselves. (thumbsdown) ) You shouldn't have to tell people you're a good person. They should know you are.
But yeah, generally things are done on a case by case basis as new people are needed. Not so much a set procedure as just some common sense.
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Hooman is correct. As far as picking ops, it's something that is thought through. We don't make people ops who we think are going to act like 8 year olds.
He summed it up pretty well: it's not what YOU think you're capable of, it's what everyone else thinks.
How to get people to think highly of you? Again, it helps to be online and helping out people.
Also, in the picking of ops: Only people who we believe can carry out the duties associated with being an op / mod will get selected. For example, when you're a moderator, a new set of controls is available to you on the forums. Only people who we think could use those controls responsibly and ethically will be picked.
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If people start complaining about IRC being "op heavy", If new Operators were picked, wouldn't there be some moderators that won't get an OP, but they still have moderating powers in other things like the forums? Or you could have different moderators Admining different channels.
Just another idea that came to my head... B)
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hmm now there's an idea! have the OP's be people not mods on the forum :P
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not that I hold a grudge or anything, Im just wondering what one I violated that got my GM status taken away
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Betaray we just let other more active people take over the job. Tho you are active these days which is great to c :) Sorry but it was time for a change.
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yea, i consider that my silant period
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Perhaps a reinstatement is in order?
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I am all for it. But I think it should be a community vote
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well they did say that they had enough admins
but if your going to vote me back in, I wont stop you lol (thumbsup)
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We don't really need ops from my experiences. Sure, some people get a little out of hand occasionally, but what if they've just been having a bad day and need to vent a little? In which case kicking them for 5 minutes is REALLY going to improve their mood.
Now that I'm thinking about it, is there a way to implement a voting sytem on the bot to kick/ban people? Then we could have just 1/2 ops (not counting the bot) and let everyone decide who is/is not acting like that PeopleAssume guy.
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Heh that PeopleAssume guy...
But I dont quite agree with the idea of having 1/2 ops... there are times that there won't be anyone in the channel that is op'ed because they will be asleep.
Yes, sometimes we have way to many ops it would seem but it doesnt seem to hurt anything. It would be cool if we could have a votekick system but i fear that some people would abuse it and that others might get pushed out of the community just because a few people have problems with them.
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For the voting out system, there comes a whole new method of abuse. You can spam the channel with such a thing. You can annoy people by consistantly starting it, and some will just follow along for the hell of it. I've seen such things in operation, it dosn't always work out all that well.
Its hard to get "Full Coverage" with a moderator, as not every timezone is represented adequately. We don't have, for example, any chineese, Russians, Japanese, ect here that I know of. So those particular timezones are unmodded.
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uh, hoooman is somewhere in the area of china, and is usually up at those hours, along with me occasionaly.
as far as the voting system goes, nice concept, but i would think itld work better w/ a group of lesser ops that could 'vote' when to kick. a full democracy would/could be disatorous. only problem is we dont have enough ppls to form such a group. ah well
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Heh, how did I know that was gonna be in your reply ZZJ. :lol:
I don't think a vote system would work. The idea of lesser ops that could vote people off the island... err, channel, is kinda cool, but it doesn't solve the problem of moderation during the off hours. The problem being that very few people are on, never mind lesser ops to moderate things. For a vote to be effective, you'd need a number of people who can and WILL vote. If there is only 1 or 2 people active at the time, voting is useless. But then, I guess you kinda already said that.
And yeah, there is usually an op on when most channel activity occurs. It shouldn't matter if the channel is unmoderated if nobody is active.