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Outpost Series Games => Outpost 2 Divided Destiny => Topic started by: spirit1flyer on October 19, 2005, 10:48:27 AM

Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: spirit1flyer on October 19, 2005, 10:48:27 AM
has anyone ever put a basic lab on a colony game and seen the hidden research?

a basic lab will be in atleast one of the colony games in the colony game pack I am putting together and there will be the hidden research with it  ;)


spirit
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Eddy-B on October 19, 2005, 11:41:13 AM
a basic lab holds the 5 basic research topics (the ones from the campaigns: boptronics etc..) PLUS all other non-researchable topics. These include the Tiger speed modification..  check out Tech files and find LAB 1 research topics :) to know what they are.
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: spirit1flyer on October 19, 2005, 11:50:30 AM
Tiger speed modification?

is that only for Eden? I don't remember seeing that one
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Highlander on October 19, 2005, 12:54:02 PM
You only get the Tiger Speed modification if you find a wreckage on one of the LR maps.

What other researches there are I have no idea.

Care to fill it out Eddy ?
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: TH300 on October 19, 2005, 01:17:56 PM
The Tiger speed mod is the only 'hidden' research of that sort. There are other researches in the tec-file, but they are either stuff you get anyway (Costs = 0) after researching the required technology or stuff that isn't of any use (ie. no benefits).
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Tellaris on October 19, 2005, 02:35:06 PM
Basic lab only contains:
Astronomy
Boptronics
Chemistry
Planetary Sciences
Social Sciences

Researching these gives Standard Lab.

Tiger speed modification is only placed within to allow it to be "Researchable" when you get the wreckage.   Since Basic Labs are only available on mission 2 of the campaigns (both, it dosn't change) this isn't really a concern.
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: spirit1flyer on October 19, 2005, 02:40:29 PM
Quote
Basic lab only contains:
Astronomy
Boptronics
Chemistry
Planetary Sciences
Social Sciences

Researching these gives Standard Lab.

hmm I have two more techs that you can research and I can build a standard lab before I research a thing

spirit
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: OP2Patriot on October 21, 2005, 06:12:21 PM
Okay, the Basic Lab can only be obtained in a colony game via the wonderful All Units/Structures cheats and there is only one research item, Tiger Speed Modification. This is available in both Eden and Plymouth. The other five topics that are being referred to can only be obtained in Campaign.

Anyways, there are only two ways to get Tiger Speed Modificiation ... and the one no one has mentioned is the method of cheating to get a basic lab. (Oh my, what a terrible crime)
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Hooman on October 21, 2005, 07:50:09 PM
There was a tech file posted in the file forum that allowed for basic labs in colony games. It required you to research those 5 basic techs first before you can get a standard lab. Once you've researched them, you can build a standard lab, and can't build a basic lab anymore. But at that point, there is absolutely no reason to have one anymore.

The tiger speed modification was also moved so it couldn't be researched from the basic lab. Instead, you either got it from wreckage, or you got a precursor tech from wreckage that allowed you to research the upgrade at an advanced lab. It all just depended on how the level designer wanted to set things up.

And you're quite free to produce you're own tech tree for new colony games. It's not that hard to figure out how the file works and either modify it, or create a new one from scratch. Mind you, the file is pretty huge, so you probably don't want to build one from scratch.

 
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Harky on November 23, 2005, 10:40:02 PM
Yeha the tech file for my survivor map allows you to start wiht a basic lab and you must do all teh research in it to get a standard lab. also the tiger speed modification is made to everyone and is available for research at the advanced lab
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Eddy-B on November 24, 2005, 01:13:38 PM
Basic Lab technologies:(It depends on which tech-file you use)
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: zhukant on November 24, 2005, 07:44:01 PM
I thought you couldn't even build a basic lab after you have a standard lab researched?
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Sirbomber on November 25, 2005, 02:15:01 PM
You can't. Why?
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Eddy-B on November 25, 2005, 03:33:43 PM
coz it's coded like that: the moment u gain the standard lab - you loose the basic lab.
Title: Basic Lab?
Post by: Sirbomber on November 25, 2005, 03:45:32 PM
I knew that, I was asking why he wanted to know.