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Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 05:21:30 PM
Some old Outpost players have started a gaming network called UEGO (Universal Electronic Gaming Outpost), (uego.net - #uego). It's been going for a while but like all new things they start slowly, their forums are new etc. So as part of the merge, should we merge the forums, and add their forums into a subsection of ours. We could get their members here and give them their own skins, etc. Also their forum has sections which any good forum has, which we lack, we'd like to add these sections to our forums giving people the chance, to talk about more topics. We think this would be great as it means more members for both, more activity. All good things.
They're a gaming network which means they have sections for different games, members for different games, etc. The OPU would be their part for Outpost series games. The website would have a 'Part of UEGO' on every page.
Joining forces should help us all.

If not this, we could make one section on the forum, which instead of going to a topic view, it redir's to the UEGO main forums. (They could do the same for us).
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: TH300 on March 23, 2005, 05:58:44 PM
don't merge!

Whereas I don't yet know if we should add more general sections, I am defintly against other games than Outpost being discussed in here. It would bring more people, but it would also distract from Outpost. And whats the use of it, when several groups of members stay in their subforums? If someone is interested in Outpost, he/she'll just come here and register.

Merging is the wrong way to get more activity.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: it2000us on March 23, 2005, 06:11:42 PM
Dont listen to that idiot, i think we should merge, it will be more fun to talk about other things rather than outpost. No offence but talking about outpost on this forum for what? 6 years is frying my brain, i need new input. I think other will agree, hopefuly.

And new threads about other games will be nice too, like Diablo, or warcraft.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 06:52:58 PM
do you have a link so that we may see some of the stuff they have?
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 06:57:23 PM
Its in my post ^^

web www.uego.net
irc #uego
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: TH300 on March 23, 2005, 07:03:58 PM
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If not this, we could make one section on the forum, which instead of going to a topic view, it redir's to the UEGO main forums. (They could do the same for us).
I'd agree with this solution

btw. whats the opinion of the uego members? Do THEY want the merge?
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 07:07:35 PM
I like what I've seen on their site, it seems like a good comunity of people and is well kept.  If the members are up for a merge, then it might not be a bad idea for the two communities
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 07:08:38 PM
Its up to the UEGO admins who are the old op2 players, not there members i think. their a new community.
But thx for brining the point up.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 07:14:11 PM
sorry to be a nit-picker, but wouldn't that statement kinda make you a hypocrate? :P

anyway, as to the old OP2 members, who are they exctally?  I mean, were they ever on Kevin AR's forum? (If not, then don't bother answering the previous question unless it's obvious that the screen would be recognized)
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 07:16:30 PM
RipperKhan and EmpeorKosh are the old op2ers who are main UEGO people along with others.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: it2000us on March 23, 2005, 07:19:04 PM
Hey im a staff guy there, so u got my vote on merging.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 07:19:39 PM
*slight cringe* kosh is alright...when he isn't in a pissy mood.  Ripper must keep him in balance there or something
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: BlackBox on March 23, 2005, 07:21:38 PM
Kosh actually I think hes decided to not act like his former self. like hes shaped himself up better.

Lol how is lev a hypocrite ?
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Tellaris on March 23, 2005, 07:23:19 PM
Another forum move for us could be disasterous, we could lose many.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 07:28:28 PM
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Another forum move for us could be disasterous, we could lose many.
rolf Baikon. read what is said, and i mean everywhere..

they would come here, we aint going anywhere.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: BlackBox on March 23, 2005, 07:31:40 PM
lol, yea they would merge with us if it happens.

We hope this is our final resting place forever. we finally have our own domain / site etc, its not a subsite of anyone/anything else. We always wanted that, and now we have it.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 07:32:54 PM
That reminds me, I should work on my site again...
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: zigzagjoe on March 23, 2005, 07:53:13 PM
Seems ok to me, aslong as the uego people are ok with it

i don't know about the other game discussion though.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: HaXtOr on March 23, 2005, 08:06:10 PM
I dont know about this .. It sounds like a very bad idea to me. I fear a great power stuggle between us and them then the community suffers as they try to take over us or we try to take over them.
 
I vote no!
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 08:08:29 PM
We are kept seprate. Share forums tho cuz it makes sence, all there gaming network memebrs will reg with us.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Nightmare24148 on March 23, 2005, 08:09:09 PM
Unlike rich industry. we need to merge to survive ;)

^_^
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: EmperorKosh on March 23, 2005, 08:09:44 PM
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sorry to be a nit-picker, but wouldn't that statement kinda make you a hypocrate? :P

anyway, as to the old OP2 members, who are they exctally?  I mean, were they ever on Kevin AR's forum? (If not, then don't bother answering the previous question unless it's obvious that the screen would be recognized)
I'm reading more and more of this as I go on, and I suppose I'll admit it. Have any of you guys wondered where the hell I've been instead of #Outpost2 ? I'm a part of the UEGO, and the reason I haven't said anything about it is xfir was hosting us, and xfir and I haven't gotten along too well in quite some time, so basically I had to go undercover or otherwise our hosting would be cut. And yes TH300, the majority of us would like to merge.  :P

Oh yeah I just remembered why I quoted this. CK9 if Kevin AR's forums were the old NHCS forums, then yes, I was there. I suggested quite a few things for an Outpost 3, and Flakker Panther was the one who usually didn't agree with my ideas but ah well; whatcha gonna do.  :rolleyes:  
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: EmperorKosh on March 23, 2005, 08:12:07 PM
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Another forum move for us could be disasterous, we could lose many.
No, since we're smaller in terms of how many people are in our community Baikon, I'm willing to move MY forums again. (This will be like the third or fourth time. Lmao, but the active ones of us are still there.)  :P  
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 08:14:05 PM
We host uego.net now :)
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: EmperorKosh on March 23, 2005, 08:16:16 PM
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I dont know about this .. It sounds like a very bad idea to me. I fear a great power stuggle between us and them then the community suffers as they try to take over us or we try to take over them.
 
I vote no!
A power stuggle? (/me laughs) Lord no... Dude the only person I didn't get along with on the OPU team was xfir. Now that he's out of the picture...  :lol:  

Anyways the only person I didn't really get along with was him. Also I didn't really get along too well with MoogleKupoHax; well actually I did, unless he decided to ride my ass about something when I was in a bad mood. And yeah CK9 I do have mood swings I know. LoL; I have a lot of things to be angry about though.  :(

However other than those two people, I get along with everyone else quite well. Especially the administrators you guys have now, namely Leviathan, Op2Hacker, and even though I don't think Hooman is an administrator, I get along with him quite well too.  :)

But when I'm on my computer now, I'm here to answer questions that anyone has about the possibility of a merger. Something else you might've not known, is that Leviathan and myself probably first started talking about a merger two or so months ago, but couldn't come to an agreement. So then, we'd just let it be, and bring the subject back up a few weeks later. LoL.  :rolleyes:  
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 08:19:32 PM
I just couldnt let it go Kosh. I wanted to help out your community... and ours :)

Together we are stronger!
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 08:32:01 PM
lol, kosh, yes those were the forums.  You can be quite a scary person when mad...ever think about becoming a drill sergant?

I vote yes
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: TH300 on March 23, 2005, 08:32:12 PM
OK, I came here, because I like Outpost, not because I like to talk about every s*** thats on the planet.

would it be so hard to leave the two forums just seperate? why hasn't anyone already suggested to merge with some other forums? Whats the use of it? we can as well put links somewhere and it'll have the same effect, but not pollute this holy place with non-outpost stuff.

I don't want a general gaming board, I hate them. I hate all modern games like shooters etc.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: EmperorKosh on March 23, 2005, 08:42:34 PM
That's most unfortunate TH300. Well if you don't want to talk about games other than Outpost 2, then we're not going to stop you or try to change your mind. You're free to do what you want.

As for leaving the forums seperate, that's rather pointless. Linking them won't do jack, because it's not like anyone is going to want to sign up with dual accounts or anything like that. Leviathan already PM-ed me telling me that Op2Hacker could combine the PHP database of the UEGO forums with those of OPU's. So I'm failing to see the problem.

And to CK9's last comment; no I don't want to be a drill-sargent, but I do want to try boxing. Heh heh...  B)  
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 23, 2005, 08:47:07 PM
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I don't want a general gaming board, I hate them. I hate all modern games like shooters etc.
I agree. I only play Outpost 2. But if were to expand to include genral topics they can all be in one section. Meaning you can stay away from them easyly. This is the OPU board, not anyone elses. So main page will allways have OPU stuff etc. IBP is great tho, UEGO section can have there whole range of sections, so it can be used as there members main page.

Also we want to keep the stuff seprate to not offend people like you and I who just care about OP2.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Drakmar on March 23, 2005, 08:48:03 PM
I believe we should stay separate. If we merge and OPU falls, the entire Outpost Universe will fall with it. However, if we stay separate, if one falls, the other can still survive. That is the smae idea that Eden and Plymouth had, and they were able to survive their mistakes because of it.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: CK9 on March 23, 2005, 08:53:47 PM
if OPU falls, it will be much like the fall of NHCS, someone will make a forum and we'll l pull together.  The important thing is to keep the occurences to the community in mind
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 24, 2005, 10:25:04 AM
OPU fill not fail or fall, wtf! We have been going since last June.

About the other game sections, these would be part of UEGO's section of forums. But because they are on our forums anyone can post in them.

The focus of these forums will allways be Outpost series games and our community. UEGO forums will just be like having there forums hosted with us.

If you have comments or suggestions about New Forum sections please post in that thread.

Anyone else to comment on possible merger situation?
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: BlackBox on March 24, 2005, 03:44:17 PM
Remember that if UEGO merged and they fell apart it wouldn't take them down with us. we are hosting them, they aren't hosting us remember. And no we don't plan on integrating the admin/staff teams at all. (in other words, their policies are how they like, ours are the way we like)

 
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: RipperKhan on March 24, 2005, 04:35:25 PM
Hi every one, most ppl know me, i been around since kevins forums, and been on and off the scene a few times. I have been busy with trying to start a gaming network, this will be the sec 1 i have started the first wasnt a complete failer. I hopeing this 1 will take off real good, as for the merger I  am ok with it but for the forums being as 1 im not sure as it would mean combineing db and users and what not to much work to be done and we have serperate admins 2 so I think there should be a alternate way of doing this. for the idea  forums being linked to one another sounds great to me, as if any 1 has been to uego i have a netwrok page setup its inactive but i would a have a comperhensive page setup with all the sites that are with uego, if u have been to like ign and seen how they have content setup for example like a  game they actually have it setup like a mini site with all the rescourses like the forums and what not linked in it, we could have something like that setup on the main site besides a forums thing on ours linked to yuors, and we can have it setup to have both users db be linked so that u wouldnt have to be rereg and that wouldnt be to hard im sure we can have somethigng setup for that. but thats how i feel about it, I do hope this works out really great, and i see no point in it not doing so
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 24, 2005, 04:40:47 PM
Allrite.. if your confused about forum merging, we can import the topic's easly. Also it should be possible to import user accounts, just gotta edit the member ID's so its ok and works.
If members cant be imported, re-regestering aint too much hassle as you aint got too many members. and the work which has to be done, well most will be done by me and hacker so dont worry about that.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: BlackBox on March 24, 2005, 05:36:37 PM
well... if we still had separate forums we couldn't rly link the databases. there'd still be separate databases and in effect, separate forums.

if they were merged though everything would be the same forum so same users DB etc.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Oprime on March 24, 2005, 11:47:51 PM
I'm up for the merg as well. Lots of my buddies would love to chat in these forums if only it wasn't all OP2.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: RipperKhan on March 25, 2005, 01:21:22 AM
well as for merging the forusm togehter as 1 im not ot fund of but we can merge the dbs and share 1 :P im sure that could be easy as i know howw to setup sql to load a db from a differnt host :P
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: BlackBox on March 25, 2005, 08:16:09 AM
Yeah but the software can only read one DB. It'd have to be either all or nothing (either copy all your data into our DB or just would need links/redirs to link the 2 forums that way, not a real "merger" of the boards just links between them)
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Zircon on March 25, 2005, 09:01:57 AM
Some new blood could probably serve to revitalize this place and create some interesting topics.

Otherwise the exchange of host/owner will become something of a routine merely to spark some life into the place :rolleyes:
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: RipperKhan on March 25, 2005, 12:19:38 PM
i gues u didnt understand what i said again.... *_* merge the dbs make 1 and both the softwares are linked to that single db got it? i know that is possible.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: BlackBox on March 25, 2005, 12:57:25 PM
Oh that... well you *could* do it but you'd have some sync problems.

Not all the software settings are stored in the DB, some are in the conf_global.php and it's physically impossible to share that file without using one copy of the software.

As well as skins, they are loaded into the DB and written into PHP files in the folders so there would be massive sync problems between the two sites there.

So yeah you'd almost have to go with one forum and merge both into it (you couldn't rly run two copies of the software using one DB).
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on March 25, 2005, 01:00:42 PM
The posts can be easyly imported. ther in a table_ or somthing file.

Anyone got any more suggestions about the possible merger??

We wont be merging the forums into one now, the forums will stay seprate.
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: zhukant on April 26, 2005, 11:16:29 PM
Wait... why not? Is it because you have second thoughts and trouble with software, or are the uego members disagreeing?  
Title: OPU / UEGO Merger
Post by: Leviathan on April 27, 2005, 11:13:02 AM
Reason we didnt put forums together is because sections cant be created in sub sections in IPB, so we couldnt put there forum in a sub section of ours.

We merged a few weeks ago, were now part of UEGO. Topic closed.