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« on: November 14, 2008, 06:52:59 PM »
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I figure it fits well with the theme of Outpost. Essentially, the article discusses the merits of spending on extinction prevention measures.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 09:26:13 PM »
But if we're all dead, who will be left alive to care?
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 01:32:03 AM »
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But if we're all dead, who will be left alive to care?
Do you care if you're alive?
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 09:23:25 AM »
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Do you care if you're alive?
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It could only cost you your life, and you got that for free!
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 01:43:29 PM »
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It could only cost you your life, and you got that for free!
I see. I think I'll kill you now. :whistle:
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 10:03:18 PM »
Oh, good! I've always wanted to test the effects of a Vortex on humans, but now I have a volunteer!
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 02:23:56 AM »
Have you 2 ever heard of PM's?
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 01:45:06 PM »
But then you wouldn't be able to participate in the conversation. :P
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 04:08:17 PM »
Let's put it this way:
humans bring about the pathway to extinction for many species through many methods (hunting, selective breeding, removal and reontroduction of speceis, etc.)
Therefore, when humans go extinct, it will allow the natural balance to return.

So, investing in human extinction prevention methods is a very selfish thing to consider.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 05:25:23 PM »
I never realized you were the hippie-anarchist type, CK9.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 08:06:20 AM »
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Let's put it this way:
humans bring about the pathway to extinction for many species through many methods (hunting, selective breeding, removal and reontroduction of speceis, etc.)
Therefore, when humans go extinct, it will allow the natural balance to return.
But, what if the balance adapted to humans, and if humans go extinct, would the "balance-o-meter" go off the scale?
I mean, humans WERE part of the evolution chain, and they got into the whole nature thing, so if humans go extinct, the scale goes off.
Same thing with any other predator; for example:

You got a bear. Bear eats fish. If the bear is dead, more fish survive.
You got fish. If the fish die, the bear will die, cause Bear eats fish.

Humans eat vegetables, and animals. If humans are gone, more vegetables and animals will survive.
If they are gone...

But the point is; either way having more or less of any of the mentioned "stuff" is bad. (having more fish = bigger fish eating more small fish.)

However you turn it, it's around fishes and humans :D
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 09:31:47 AM »
Speaking of the end of the world and apocalypses and such, "So long and thanks for all the fish".

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 09:43:00 AM »
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But, what if the balance adapted to humans, and if humans go extinct, would the "balance-o-meter" go off the scale?
I mean, humans WERE part of the evolution chain, and they got into the whole nature thing, so if humans go extinct, the scale goes off.
Same thing with any other predator; for example:

You got a bear. Bear eats fish. If the bear is dead, more fish survive.
You got fish. If the fish die, the bear will die, cause Bear eats fish.

Humans eat vegetables, and animals. If humans are gone, more vegetables and animals will survive.
If they are gone...

But the point is; either way having more or less of any of the mentioned "stuff" is bad. (having more fish = bigger fish eating more small fish.)

However you turn it, it's around fishes and humans :D
Bears eat more than just fish, fish die, bear lives.

The world didn't end when Dinosaurs died, and it won't be dead when we aren't here anymore...unless we caused it by nuking the hell out of eachother (but the cockroaches will survive, heh)

Our position at the tp of the food chain will be quickly filled by another animal.  So it was when the dinosaurs went extinct, so it will be when we are gone.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 01:55:21 PM »
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so it will be when we are gone.
I share your optimism :D

See you on new terra
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 02:05:59 PM »
If you read the article, it suggests that the best solution is a colony of some sort out in space, or a small colony of some sort deep underground.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 02:32:02 PM »
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If you read the article, it suggests that the best solution is a colony of some sort out in space, or a small colony of some sort deep underground.
and you doom another ecosystem ;)

New Terra maybe?
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 07:13:22 PM »
Vote for Emperor Sirbomber, for I shall ensure no lifeform goes extinct...
Except those that are clearly inferior.  Like cats.  Not to be confused with CATS, of course.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2008, 08:00:01 AM »
I would dethrone you for that. And I promise that even you cannot resist... much.

Are bacteria and viruses considered inferior?  ;)  
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2008, 11:59:26 AM »
All your bacterium are belong to us.
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