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Offline PKDecatur

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The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« on: June 17, 2016, 11:51:14 PM »
In the '90s, I had a compilation of shareware and shovel ware games called 40 Best Windows 95 Games from SoftKey. One of the games was "The Second Universe."





Does this look like (conceptually) a clone of Outpost (1994, Sierra On-Line) crossed with Alien Legacy (also 1994, Sierra On-Line), or what?

Offline lordpalandus

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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2016, 12:13:28 AM »
AWESOME! I've been trying to remember the name of this game for almost a decade, and couldn't remember what it was called (if you don't know the name of an obscure indie title, it makes it nigh impossible to find)! The last time I played this was back when I had an old Softkey 40 Games CD-ROM on my Windows 98! (probably same CD as you mentioned)

It doesn't really play much like Outpost does; I think. It plays more like a simplified "time/turn-based" equivalent of Master of Orion (Time can be accelerated), if I recall properly. You control multiple colonies, deal with certain events (depends on the choices you make which determines which events you encounter) and send resources from one colony to the other, with I believe the end goal of surviving some calamity.

On side note: Did you enjoy the version of Gravity Well (by software engineering) that came on that disc? It also had a few more commonly known Steve Moraff titles (the less common, were the dungeon crawlers I enjoyed, such as Dungeons of the Unforgiven)
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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2016, 10:30:12 AM »
This looks interesting. So does Alien Legacy -- I may have to check them out some time.

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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2016, 08:24:18 PM »
Jesus does Gravity Well sound awfully familiar...
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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 10:00:38 PM »
I personally liked V3 of Gravity Well for the 95/98; it had all the various weapons in the game and defenses in the game, but it was quite a bit simpler. You could play the demo and basically by playing that you'd never really need to buy it. V4 added a lot of improvements and took away a lot of the viable strategies in V3 and hid most of the advanced tech behind a paywall. V5 added a few new things to V4 that were welcome, but again locked behind paywall.

Unfortunately that paywall was always exclusive to pay via cheque or cash sent in the mail. They didn't use any other form of distribution, and they unfortunately don't sell those games anymore; I tried asking back in 2013, but they replied about 1.5 years later and said they don't sell it anymore. They have a "new" V6 that plays nothing like the originals with a weird monetization scheme to it, that I doubt I'll ever try.
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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 09:16:03 PM »
There are cracked versions available. Just saying.

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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2016, 11:01:12 PM »
Such as?

I tried finding cracked versions of them over the years back when I played the demos diligently. None of the cracked ones worked; they either made the "register me" box go away but not register it, or the game refuses to launch period. So, unless you have some working cracked ones I don't know about, then could you tell me where to find them?
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Re: The Second Universe: indie clone of Outpost
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 07:26:22 AM »
I just did a quick google search and came up with a lot of listings. I didn't examine anything, just noted that there were a lot of hits when searching.