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Offline Eddy-B

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« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2010, 09:49:20 AM »
"Our mission has failed - our civilization is doomed"

It's either that or "Our civilization is saved ...... until the next cataclismic disaster ... or WWIII"
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« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2010, 09:54:10 AM »
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Pretty much you need two things to survive on any planet even if its out of the sweet zone.  Fuel source of power and water. the rest would be prefab buildings mostlikely.
You need an air supply, adequate protection from the elements (such as major temperature variation or simply extreme temperatures), including radiation reduction/shielding. Food, sewage, a little bit of entertainment and so on.
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« Reply #77 on: January 03, 2010, 10:19:49 AM »
But note that water is at the base of most of these.

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« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2010, 12:09:29 AM »
air can be made from water hehe. and i said prefab buildings.

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« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2010, 08:34:58 PM »
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They actually are trying to create black holes but there microscopic.  And the smaller a black hole is the faster it evaporates compared to its mass intake. so it would go poof and leave behind exotic particles. How ever some have said it will make a black hole that is just beyond that magical line where its mass intake will allow it to grow insize instead of evaporating.

As far as colonies on other planets/moons there are a couple places we could set up shop.

Mars Mercury The Moon (luna) Venus Gamamede Cylipso (sp) Titan I believe there is a moon around uranus or neptune to but I cant remember its name.  Even then it would take years to set up.

Vitamen D isnt a issue because it can be put into any food to fortify them so we dont have to go outside to get it :P.
Mercury and Venus...not likely. Venus is literally a giant acid-rain volcano (as far as I remember), so the technology wouldn't be worth it for the planet...
Mercury would be good for insta-baking of everything, so the "extreme temperature" protection would be...quite extreme.

 
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« Reply #80 on: January 05, 2010, 09:34:29 PM »
Mercury is where we'll send the criminals :P
 
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« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2010, 01:17:03 AM »
Actually yes mercury is a possiblity. there is a huge crater at the north pole that supposedly has ice in it. inside the walls of that crater a small colony would be safe from the heat and the solar radiation.

Venus is very possible but you would never have the colony on the surface. it would be floating above the area that would be filled with acid rain.

With every planet you are bound to have some difficulty to over come to have a colony.

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« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2010, 01:20:39 AM »
Venus also has the problem of ridiculously high pressure, although that wouldn't be a problem if you went up high enough
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« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2010, 01:40:24 AM »
exactly.  How ever it wouldnt work on a planet like jupiter. to violent. even tho there would be alot of fuel.

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« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2010, 01:43:51 AM »
I hear that besides Mars, the other best candidate is Europa. It's one of the moons of Jupiter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(moon)

It's got some interesting stuff on Wiki.


I can't imagine Venus being very habitable. Way too many problems there. Mercury is probably a better bet than Venus, provided you choose a proper site. Still, the moon is probably better than Mercury, and much closer.
 

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« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2010, 08:49:45 AM »
I would think Mercury would be faster to get to based on gravitational pull
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« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2010, 05:30:22 AM »
did anyone else read Europa and think "we should be ther by now..."

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« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2010, 08:51:17 AM »
If Europa is the one with conditions they believe to be like early earth, I'm more curious to see if it will develope any further along that line.
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« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2010, 11:35:25 AM »
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If Europa is the one with conditions they believe to be like early earth, I'm more curious to see if it will develope any further along that line.
Give it a few hundred thousand years.

It's ok, I've got time.

Anyways, I didn't know that about the crater on Mercury, so maybe that is a possibility. Still, I can't see much use for it beyond studying the sun. And no, the gas planets would not work beyond fuel collecting. But, we won't know til we try. (:

Also, CK9, to your post at the start of the page : It was written somewhere, or in a trailer, just not in the intro. I'll try to find it.
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« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2010, 11:39:27 AM »
we need a subspace gate before we can seriously colonize beyond Mars :P
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« Reply #90 on: February 09, 2010, 04:34:33 PM »
The reality is that us humans will not move from earth until we see imminent danger. we are a lazy race. haha
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« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2010, 10:32:34 PM »
That's not true. Well move if we see profit.

It's not like the Americas where colonized because Europe was going to sink or anything.
 

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« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2010, 01:08:54 AM »
I agree that, in general, humanity is lazy.  However, there are the redeeming few who push progress forward.  That is enough to have us colonizing Mars long before we are in danger of extinction :P
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