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Offline Eddy-B

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« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2009, 03:34:49 PM »
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anyway, back to topic...
rite!
(and i have no time/desire to read all those posts!).
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Anyway; my view:
Since it's not just the maya calendar that points to these times, but also Malachi's list is to end soon, the Hopi's prophecies are coming to a conclusion soon, and there are others as well - all of them pointing at a date in the very near future.

It would be smallminded to think "the world will come to an end", but i do believe, considering the amount of prophecies pointing to this specific date, that indeed something will happen - if not on december 21st 2012, at some time in the next few years/decade.

I don't think the world will explode or armageddon/judgement day will happen, but some significant event is going to take place - good or bad i dont know.
  • I've read reports about the chinese preparing a landing site somewhere in the himalayas for ETs to land,
  • If you believe the writings of St. Malachi (the list of 112 popes), maybe Mount Vesuvius will explode and Rome will be destroyed, along with christianity & a large piece of Italy,
  • maybe Art Bell and Whitley Strieber are right and a new ice age will begin with the halt of the Gulf Stream and the whole of Europe will be covered under a mile of ice,
  • or maybe the magnetic pole shift that has been going on will disrupt the tectonic plates and cause a major continental shift,
  • maybe there will be CME so big it'll throw our civilization back to the stone age,
  • and of course there are those idiots that think Nibiru will crash into earth, which is ridiculous of course: a planetary body with an orbit of several 1000's of years!
So, my opinion: something will probably happen and my guts say it'll be a climate shift...
 
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« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2009, 04:00:51 PM »
~World Peace~

That's another possibility.
And lets not forget the death of the anti-christ.
But then again we have not located him yet...so no world peace at the moment :( .

(Please note that i have no strong religious what-nots upon my logic, but i do beleive in god...just no practices)

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« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2009, 11:30:10 PM »
World peace won't come about until the human population drops to a critical level.
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« Reply #53 on: December 31, 2009, 03:42:45 AM »
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World peace won't come about until the human population drops to a critical level.
How may I be of service? :)

Anyways, I don't care what proof anyone has, I already live each day like it's my last, so, go figure, if the world ends it's that much less energy I have to use for my last day. :whistle:  
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« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2009, 08:12:26 AM »
GLOBAL GENOCIDE! MUHAHAHA! ONLY ONE MILLION HUMANS ON EARTH WILL SURVIVE! MUHAHAHA!!!

*Launching Nukes to China* (Us)

*Kill america! Fire ze missiles!* (Russia)

*Bomb everyone and cause chaos!* (Terrorists)

*Let's kill our neigbor! it's what everyone else is doing!* (all of UN)

*The Us threatens us! we must haste! fire warheads!* (china)

*Fire every last damn nuke at every forsaken nuke holding threat!* (Us)


Is THAT critical enough for you?

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« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2009, 10:34:13 AM »
I dont agree with world peace unless the planet is made completely lifeless.  there is always a battle of some kind going on.  There would never be peace.

So far i have heard for the end of the world 2012.
A super collider will make black holes that are just big enough to survive there decaying process to suck up mass and grow larger and larger till they consume the earth. Which in the scientific community there are always those who say this and those that say that and the one crack pot about big foot being real. you cant believe any thing untill its been done.

End of days all the biblical stuff.  jesus and the anti christ fight he wins the world doesnt f***ing end. just alot of people are taken to heaven those left behind have to deal with a dictator for a while then jesus comes and kicks his ass.  If you beleive it being fortold knowledge. then there is nothing to worry about jesus will save all those left behind. to be honest i rather be left behind then taken to another place on the whim of some unseen thus far person.

thermonuclearwar. Since we all have a mutual destruction policy. yes the world will end if some one launchs a nuke and any major land mass with people on it. sorry hawaii.  This is more likely as humans are inherintly stupid.

Sudden Impact.  yes the op2 story hurray. I doubt this will happen there are some that will come close in the future they might even become a new moon for earth they will come that close.  how ever we are always looking for the holy object that will hit us.  they have yet to find one. even so we will have enough time to stop it.

personally i believe the world will end once the core of the planet has cooled to a point where the magnetosphere is so weak it lets in cosmic radiation and every one will die a jiffy pop death.

Gamma ray bursts. Very unlikely but still a realm of possible.  you would just have to find the right start that had one of its poles pointed right at our solar system. It will kill every one.

Black holes.  Not worried about it.

Our star going Nova or super nova.  Not worried about that either.

Some one launching nukes into saturn or jupiter.  Eh i doubt any one will even tho it will make a ginormus explosion. that would be like a 2nd sun for a while.

global warming bah.  turn on the ac.  

Volcanos around the world all exploding at once.  That will cancel out global warming.

Personally i think the only thing that will end the world is humans. bunch of pychotic apes on a primitive dirt ball super arogant and ignorant about themselves and there surroundings and each other.





 

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« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2009, 11:20:35 AM »
ROFLMDFAO!!!!!!!!!!!  Jiffy pop death


I've got to agree, even though I know that there are two stars read to go nova with poles pointed at us (though, I think they are just slightly off).

The galactic collision forms another possibility, but with the exponential growth of human population, I think we'll die off before that happens.
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« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2009, 12:20:38 PM »
What if we're not confined to living on Earth at that point?  I'd guess that currently we'd be able to establish some kind of colony on another planet, but I doubt it would last long on its own...
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« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2009, 12:33:50 PM »
I think NASA's still perfecting its design for a lunar base.

It is not unlikely that colonies will be founded on planets within our solar system within one generation. I guess it will take longer before we will go beyond the solar system, though.
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« Reply #59 on: December 31, 2009, 02:45:38 PM »
before we can go beyond our star, we need to solve the following issues:

1) propulsion: can we get a system that is as efficient as an ion engine with enough power behind it to reduce travel time.  Nasa is looking into Warp technology, lol.

2) crew: can we design a cryogenic system that won't kill the crew as it takes them out?  Can we reduce the travel time sufficiently so that they don't need to be put into stasis?

3) supplies: The further out we go, the more supplies we'll need to send out.  The more weight we put on the ship, the more fuel we need to burn to get it off the planet.  This last point, however, will be negated if the space tether is finally made (proposed design uses a red laser to drive its movement, not sure how that works though).

4) destination: NASA is devoting a lot of resources to finding an earth-like planet, but the current technology greatly limits the search.  A lot of planets can only be detected by the effect they have on the veiw of their stars.  Even when we find planets in the "goldilocks zone" there's no garuntee that it is hospitible enough for a colony to be founded.  
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« Reply #60 on: December 31, 2009, 08:20:39 PM »
hm.. i totally forgot about the LHC @ CERN - there's people who really believe it'll open up some kind of black hole or whatever..
Guess they been watching too many episodes of "Sliders" -- they're not going to create an Einstein-Rosen bridge, just slamming some particles into each other.. Who knows, maybe they'll discover Lazar's magic element 115 (so far they haven't), but that's another topic to be discussed... come to think of it- i'll start it myself :)

There's one more thing to consider:
since the maya's had such extreme understanding of the galaxy and our solar system, it stands to believe they may have calculated an exact date many centuries into their future. But that would mean they "predicted" a galactic incident, one that they could calculate.
One of the bigger asteroids or comets slamming into earth, i doubt it very much they could've even seen those objects without any proof they had lenses or some other means to magnify parts of the sky.

So then the question remains: what else could be predicted almost 2 millenia into the future?  or are we just interpreting it wrong and will there just be another era after 13 baktun?
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« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2010, 03:34:55 AM »
I still think that a fear like that is pointless, but if something were to happen, I would go for WW3 breaking out. I would like the world to see the out doors first thou, and not be cramped in such a confined area where you have corrupted politicians on one side, and commercialism on the other.
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« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2010, 07:06:08 AM »
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Ahh yes, time travel paradoxes. Always fun.

So what if the end of the world is more of a Mayan cultural thing? After we're all still alive after 2012, what reason do we have left to remember anything about Mayan culture? ;) Or is that too insensitive. (Mostly, *I* don't know anything about Mayan culture).
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« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2010, 02:03:08 PM »
you have failed, our colony is doomed...
I stand by my previous post. The date is meaningless to our societies of now. There are so many more things one could perish from meanwhile... IE: Vitamine D defficencys from a lack of sunlight!  :P  

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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2010, 02:09:33 PM »
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IE: Vitamine D defficencys from a lack of sunlight!

I think that speaks all to well to the people of this forum.
 

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« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2010, 02:41:57 PM »
They actually are trying to create black holes but there microscopic.  And the smaller a black hole is the faster it evaporates compared to its mass intake. so it would go poof and leave behind exotic particles. How ever some have said it will make a black hole that is just beyond that magical line where its mass intake will allow it to grow insize instead of evaporating.

As far as colonies on other planets/moons there are a couple places we could set up shop.

Mars Mercury The Moon (luna) Venus Gamamede Cylipso (sp) Titan I believe there is a moon around uranus or neptune to but I cant remember its name.  Even then it would take years to set up.

Vitamen D isnt a issue because it can be put into any food to fortify them so we dont have to go outside to get it :P.

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« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2010, 03:47:52 PM »
As far as I know, they're first gonna try the moon, and then Mars, as the moon is great for a short distance test, and Mars is the closest real planet.
I'm actually designing a Mars base for school, and that is what we dug up, anyway.

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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2010, 10:07:00 PM »
I've heard that they're getting complications that will force them to abandon the moon outpost project.  It would be great for launching bigger expeditions, though.
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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2010, 02:34:52 AM »
WHAT IF WALMART CLOSES ON 2012!?!?!?! WHERE WILL WE GET OR STUFF!??!?!?
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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2010, 02:54:13 AM »
The Farmer's Market!

But gosh... what a non-smart way of adding to the current topic spike  <_<


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« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2010, 09:55:48 AM »
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Even when we find planets in the "goldilocks zone" there's no garuntee that it is hospitible enough for a colony to be founded.
If no Earth-like world could be found, how close was close enough?   :P  
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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2010, 03:20:48 PM »
Personally, I'd say if it has liquid water and isn't too high in lethal radiation, it's close enough

Financial complications probably
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« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2010, 06:08:05 PM »
That was a quote from OP2, CK9...
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« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2010, 08:11:52 PM »
I don't remember that phrase in there....

"World after unsutable world was rejected.  Their resources low, their situation desperate..."

"...It was cold, dry, nearly airless, but they saw possibility..."
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« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2010, 01:18:41 AM »
Pretty much you need two things to survive on any planet even if its out of the sweet zone.  Fuel source of power and water. the rest would be prefab buildings mostlikely.