Author Topic: How We Got So Far. (Read 102048 times)

BlackBox · « **Reply #100 on:** May 29, 2006, 05:18:59 PM »

You might be able to.. I read somewhere apparently that cat5 cable (ethernet) can carry up to 4 connections at a time. However I doubt that many network appliances will actually use the extra wires.

Splicing the cables probably isn't that smart.. although the ethernet packets contain MAC addresses so multiple devices on one line can work.. however splicing like that doesn't prevent collisions when two devices send a packet at exactly the same time.

Also, the cable / dsl modem will probably only assign an IP to one of the connected devices (it gets IP's from your ISP. Most residential connections only get 1 IP per household, unless you pay extra for more IP's).

That's why you have to use a router rather than just a plain old hub since the router assigns IP's on an internal network, and only has 1 IP on the internet side.

Can't you go into your router settings and port forward the op2 ports to your computer? There's no reason why it shouldn't work (unless you have a router that doesn't handle NAT properly).
Failing that, hamachi might be your only option (at least for now).

CK9 · « **Reply #101 on:** May 30, 2006, 09:46:18 AM »

My dad forgot the password he set to the router controls >.>

Mez · « **Reply #102 on:** May 30, 2006, 03:39:32 PM »

Hacker what you are refering to

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read somewhere apparently that cat5 cable (ethernet) can carry up to 4 connections at a time.

Is that cat 5 (or even cat 3 for that matter) contains 8 individual cables. they form four pairs of cables.
Only one pair of those cables is used (in some higher speed propietry networks two pairs are used, so im told). This leaves another 3 pairs of cables for use in networking.

Yes i know it sounds crazy, and i know that there is no consumer, real life use for all four pairs, and even network technitions generally cant be arsed spliting the cable to use all four pairs (cos its messy, an it takes less effort on there part to just lay another cable).

The final option is just to reset your router, there is normally a button on the unit you push with a piece of wire. I just had to do that for a neighbours connection so i could add more wireless devices.
The only pain with the reset is if you have to reset any security or if you have forgotton the ISP settings, username and password, all of which can be obtained with a phone call!

Freeza-CII · « **Reply #103 on:** May 30, 2006, 04:52:09 PM »

From what i see only the GIGAlan uses all 8 wires all your basic 10/100baseT is only going to use 4 wires Green Greenwhite Orange and Orangewhite set on the correct pin on each end of the cable. The Blue and Brown pair are both entirly unused there for you can have 2 networks going down the same group of cables.

when used for a phone line cat5 can hold 4 connections but Lan is going to be 2 lines 4 wires per connection.

CK9 · « **Reply #104 on:** May 30, 2006, 11:03:07 PM »

um, we often have to reset the router to get wireless to work, only we turn it off then turn it back on, lol

Oprime · « **Reply #105 on:** May 31, 2006, 08:07:30 AM »

Um.... (OT)

p.s. You would never want to use all 4 pairs in a 100Mb (Cat5e) to get 2 connections since there will be interference from the other pairs which will make the connections show up with lots o collisions. It can be done with 10baseT (Cat3 or Cat5) tho. Copper Giga ethernet uses all 4 pairs but, Cat 6 or 7 (yes it does exist) is recommended. 10Gb ethernet can use fiber or be a hybrid fiber/copper system.

lordly_dragon · « **Reply #106 on:** June 01, 2006, 12:30:55 PM »

Reset your router using the little button on its back... it is supose to reset to factory default...if i remember corect my little VPN/network class.

BlackBox · « **Reply #107 on:** June 01, 2006, 04:39:42 PM »

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You would never want to use all 4 pairs in a 100Mb (Cat5e) to get 2 connections since there will be interference from the other pairs which will make the connections show up with lots o collisions.

The length of the cable would be short enough that it wouldn't be an issue (it's sufficiently shielded). Cat5 isn't really designed to be run more than a couple hundred feet or so anyway, so you're asking for trouble if you have a really long cable and are only running one connection inside the line.

op2rules · « **Reply #108 on:** November 14, 2006, 09:37:00 PM »

Woah, this is the first time i read this thread and wow, i never knew opu came from such an old place! I wish i could get more research on this though!

Brazilian Fan · « **Reply #109 on:** November 15, 2006, 01:33:05 PM »

Correct me if I am wrong:

This topic was created to tell the history of the OP community.

So why you guys are talking about conspiracy and internet problems?

op2rules · « **Reply #110 on:** November 15, 2006, 05:10:05 PM »

You can't blame them, there isn't much to talk about it anymore.

Nightmare24148 · « **Reply #111 on:** December 25, 2006, 10:38:02 PM »

Okay its been a long time, now Ive totally forgotten - WHY exactly did the rift happen i.e. xfir went away?

lordly_dragon · « **Reply #112 on:** December 26, 2006, 01:37:00 AM »

Like me...( I dont know a thing) but I suggest you don't ask further...always a touchy and grungy subject around here :lol:

Leviathan · « **Reply #113 on:** December 26, 2006, 05:44:30 AM »

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Okay its been a long time, now Ive totally forgotten - WHY exactly did the rift happen i.e. xfir went away?

Me and hacker took over the forum and moved it to this domain out of xfir's control. We did this because we wanted the forums in the communitys control without any restriction. Eg we wanted a new forum section with xfir and he didnt wanna have it.

So of cource this annoyed people and there you go.

spirit1flyer · « **Reply #114 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:59:51 AM »

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We did this because we wanted the forums in the communitys control without any restriction

I'm keeping my mouth shut here. <_<

instigator · « **Reply #115 on:** December 26, 2006, 02:18:02 PM »

I think the history of what has happend to this outpost community is awsome. Its so rare that people have actually stayed together dispite the "strife/conflict" they've had. This is what makes us a community. I just hope that everyone stays together! This place has a nice future for it; that I know. I would like to express my thanks to Leviathan and his work here. I'm sure there has been times that people would just like to totally give up this idea of an outpost community. But hey look, we are still here! and I for one don't plan on leaving. The New Year is coming! My hope is that we will continue to add chapters to our history as an outpost2 community well into the future. After all,

Extinction is not an option

lordly_dragon · « **Reply #116 on:** January 05, 2007, 05:40:44 PM »

We SHOULDN'T recall this over and over again...I wasnt here and I do not want to know anything about it. Past is past....

Savant 231-A · « **Reply #117 on:** January 26, 2007, 01:10:04 PM »

*sniff* all comments that i thought to use were used by others.

So only what i have to say is:

Long live our OPU. For Admin and Forums!

*Takes a glass of wine and drinks it in one!*

Arklon · « **Reply #118 on:** July 10, 2007, 03:45:12 PM »

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Both communities stand today in peaceful co-existance.

Just reading through this again... um, this isn't really true

Sl0vi · « **Reply #119 on:** July 10, 2007, 09:58:42 PM »

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Both communities stand today in peaceful co-existance.
Just reading through this again... um, this isn't really true

One is too busy fighting amongst itself, and the other one is dead. How is that not peaceful?

Freeza-CII · « **Reply #120 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:08:37 AM »

how exactly is one fighting among itself?

CK9 · « **Reply #121 on:** July 27, 2007, 05:08:43 PM »

one community is just a shell were the oldies go to chat, the other is the place where all the newbies get introduced =p

Sirbomber · « **Reply #122 on:** December 09, 2008, 07:10:27 PM »

Hey, maybe it's time to update ye olde forum history?

CK9 · « **Reply #123 on:** December 10, 2008, 12:16:27 PM »

I would, but I was away for much of the newer history. If you want to write something up and send it to me, i'll gladly look it over and add it in.

zhukant · « **Reply #124 on:** December 11, 2008, 12:17:19 AM »

Lol, one of the few web communities that actually deserves a history =] I approve.

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Author Topic: How We Got So Far. (Read 102048 times)