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Off Topic => General Interest => Debate => Topic started by: ZeusBD on March 04, 2004, 06:44:34 PM
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The ads, part of a multimillion dollar television blitz that began Thursday, describe President Bush's leadership as the country faced a series of challenges including "an economy in recession, a stock market in decline," the end of the dot-com boom and the September 11 attacks.
Some of the families of September 11 victims have criticized the decision to use images of the wreckage of the fallen twin towers in two of the spots.
The ads also show firefighters at the scene of the disaster, something that draw a rebuke from one firefighters' union.
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I think that since he helped us (American's) through the crisis that he can show the images to remind us of what a great leader he was through those times, and still is.
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I will vote for Bush no matter what ads he runs, but I do feel that he shouldn't bring those memories back. Aren't we trying to get over the entire 9/11 thing and move on with our lives?
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(OT) I know this is off topic, and you may delete it, but I just wanted to throw out there the September 11th was my 18th birthday. Try to imagine it supposed to be one of the greatest days of my life, I just became an adult, and that happen's. It really hit close to home, but through it all, Bush was a strong leader and he should be remembered for that.
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The public can often have a short memory. Another 9/11 can happen, and the public needs to be reminded. 9/11 is also not only an example of a disaster, but it will be remembered for the American public backing behind one president. On 9/11, America united.
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I'd say yes. If gore was president during 9-11, he would have used it for reelection. (Though he would have no chance of reelection. lol :) )
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I finally saw one of the ads, and I have to say I'm fine with them. Yes, 9/11 was a national tragedy, but he did handle it well, and he may need to remind the public of that.
And, unions make me cringe.
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Actually, I ran across this article today. It's an opinion column (http://www.time.com/time/columnist/krauthammer/article/0,9565,598556,00.html) for Time Magazine, that provides a good case for using 9/11 in the campaign.
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I just wish that people would just let him be. He has the right to do it, so let him do it. He didn't show anyone dead in the picture's, so why are the families offended?
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I am for Bush showing the pictures of 9-11 in his campain, yes the public does need to be reminded of what those towelhead scumbuckets did to us, I cringe whenever I see or hear about people that oppose bush, and oppose war at all costs, although I respect their right to free speach, I still think they are a bunch of whiny hippies
if they got what they wanted, it would show the world that the US is able to be attacked with no fear of of reprisel, with us going to war in Afganistan and Iraq, it shows the world the exact opposite, that we will not tolerate terrism, have you notised that once we captured sadam, Libia, Pakastan, and North Korea have wanted to begin talkes about their WMD's? That is exactly what the world needs.
but people forget that there are evil people in the world, people that have declared a relegous war against everything we hold dear, and they are willing to blow themselves up, as long as they kill us.
now I dont see how anyone who opposes Bush and the war, and thus is in a way helping the terrists, can call themselves Americans.
edit: other than the spelling errors, I think it was pretty good
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I agree, except for the spelling error's that was pretty good. Your right about the WMD thing, but for some reason you'll never hear about most good things that he's done, because the people thinking he's done something wrong are more interesting (I think they're more ammusing with their views). They speak out more so the news flocks to them and then the American public thinks that that's what everyone's thinking.
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thats the problem, the press controls what the public sees, so if the press is one sided, the public will be fed one sided information, no doubt influencing how they vote.
so pretty much, whoever controls the press can control the country
whoa, it sounds like the plot of an old cold war novel
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Actually, it is a part of the left wing New World Order conspiracy, to make things ready for the New World Order. (not most of you will believe in NWO, but I do think there is some liberal conspiracy out there)
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My step-dad believes in NWO. He says that the leaders of several countries and heads of news organizations and just powerful people are part of it. Through them the world is supposedly ran because they have the position's they need to get what they want. I don't believe in it, but who know's.
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Yes, it is a tragedy and America united, etc., but realize what he's showing us these ads for. To get people to vote for him. Using a tragedy in which over 3,000 people died to ploy people to vote for him is wrong.
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He isn't using the ad's to remind us of the people that died (there are no picture's of dead people), it is a reminder that if the democrates take over, they want to pull all of our troops out of everywhere we are right now and that by doing that the terrorists will be free to do it again to us. Also it is reminding us of what strong leadership he has.
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He isn't using the ad's to remind us of the people that died (there are no picture's of dead people), it is a reminder that if the democrates take over, they want to pull all of our troops out of everywhere we are right now and that by doing that the terrorists will be free to do it again to us. Also it is reminding us of what strong leadership he has.
Exactly, look at this pic. . .
(http://op3.xfir.net/imag/Kerry.gif)
Protecting our military families in times of war. . . well what about america?
Remember kids everyvote for Kerry is a vote for Satan.
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thats a bit extreme, Im pro Bush, but I dont think that saying if you vote for Kerryyou vote for the devil, I mean the people do have their freedom of speach, and if you want to vote for him you can, but if you do, your brain is probly cole-slaw
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i would rather say someones brain is probably spinich, and ain't no way you would get me to vote for kerry, he has said some things that I do not agree with.
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I agree, voting for Kerry is not voting for the devil. I think that it would be a bad desicion on everyone's part that did, but that is what this country is based on, a government ran for the people, by the people.
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its just that some people beleave in talking heads, thats what kerry is, a talking head, he sais all this stuff he will do with this country, but he will do what clinton did, nothing
we need Bush, he practices what he preaches
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I guess I think that as long as he steers away from the death, then its okay.
Also a note to any UK people reading this thread: if you don't have anything to say, then don't reply saying so.
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Yeah i agree but he's not gonna show a scene from resident evil, it's just the flag
(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/positive5.jpg)
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Well, the hype has calmed down over his using of the 9/11 pictures, so I don't think that it will hurt him as much as everyone thought, but it still just a dirty tactic used by the democrates.
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the Democrats will do everything they can to get Kerry in the the White House, where he can do what Clinton did, ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!!!!
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I think Kerry hurt himself by informing us that he will try to reduce overseas labor (as in US Companies building factories where labor is cheap) when in fact his family fortune (Heard of Heinz?) is based on overseas factories...
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kerry is a big hipocrate lol
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Bush is getting blamed for an economy fallout, but what do you expect with a war? Before that he got blamed for the economy being bad, but that was because of Bill Clinton, who got credit for doing good to our economy because he was riding off the good times of Reagan and the other Bush. Bush is getting blamed for all sorts of stupid crap that he shouldn't be getting blamed for. If people were to stop and look at the facts of the past, Bush's approval rating would go up at least 10%.
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The bias of the media is sickening.
Actually the unemployment numbers now is about the same as when Clinton left office. I would also like to say that some foreign companies are starting to create jobs in America, due to the average American being more efficient at his job than he has been for 50 years.
... my two cents.
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I'll take all 10 cents from you Patriot...People listen to the news and believe that what they're saying is fact. They don't wanna take the time to look up the facts, they want the easy way out and listen to what someone else calls facts and base their opinion off of that. As American's, we have been brought up to be lazy anymore. People sue other people of stupid sh*t that wasn't even their fault (see the obestiy problem thread (http://forum.outpostuniverse.net/index.php?showtopic=694)) and they're winning. No one wants to work to get anything done, they want everything done for them.