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Title: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: stillhere on August 24, 2013, 04:19:04 AM
i redownloaded this mission pack, and unfortunately the game freezes at mission completion at the first mission regardless of difficulty level, (i played all three).  now along time ago i played this mission pack without issue. but ive only recently downloaded the latest op2 patch and renegades to this computer.  was curious if anyone else has played this recently.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: TH300 on August 24, 2013, 08:29:58 AM
As far as I know, Renegades is made for version 1.3.4 of Outpost 2. Maybe its not compatible with 1.3.5
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: stillhere on August 24, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
well it seems renegades doesnt like my pc very much then.  i tried 1.3.5 , 1.3.4 and even  the 1.3.3 from the renegades site. 
the mission plays fine without crashing.  but regardless of version or difficulty it freezes after mission completion.

looks like this every time, (version changes ofc)

Problem Event Name:   AppHangB1
  Application Name:   Outpost2.exe
  Application Version:   1.3.0.4
  Application Timestamp:   34493b6a
  Hang Signature:   0eaf
  Hang Type:   0
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   1033
  Additional Hang Signature 1:   0eaf2e84d097c429f6619678da48938c
  Additional Hang Signature 2:   904d
  Additional Hang Signature 3:   904dbfbc9339382178b5fcd2a180dacc
  Additional Hang Signature 4:   0eaf
  Additional Hang Signature 5:   0eaf2e84d097c429f6619678da48938c
  Additional Hang Signature 6:   904d
  Additional Hang Signature 7:   904dbfbc9339382178b5fcd2a180dacc 

not my area of forte.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Leviathan on February 02, 2015, 06:12:49 PM
Anyone have any recent experience with Renegades ? I don't see why it would need 1.3.4 to work correctly.

It installs and runs fine on 1.3.5 but I don't have time to play through the missions at the moment.

Also if you are looking for the installer here it is: renegades1-4.exe (http://files.outpostuniverse.org/campaign/renegades1-4.exe)

And some more info on the wiki: wiki.outpost2.net/Outpost_Renegades (http://wiki.outpost2.net/Outpost_Renegades)

I hope Eddy-B returns one day :)
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: leeor_net on February 03, 2015, 07:28:17 AM
Without having the source, I can only guess but I'm going to assume that this is a pointer error of some sort. Probably wild/dangling pointer or stack thrashing. All sorts of fun to be had with that.

Would love to get my hands on the source and see what I can do to fix these kinds of errors.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Eddy-B on April 06, 2015, 02:36:59 PM
I hope Eddy-B returns one day :)
LOL - might happen some day
Who knows....
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: leeor_net on April 06, 2015, 07:15:52 PM
Would appear 'SOME day' has come. :D :D
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Eddy-B on April 07, 2015, 09:29:59 AM
not just yet..

need to sort out some personal issues still
not to mention : get a hold of my old PC, which contains all my OP2-data.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on April 07, 2015, 11:24:16 AM
Ahh, but we saw possibilities. In that spirit of optimism, we named that day "today". Eddy-B came with the best of intentions, to post, code, and publish. And for a time, he did.

... but then conflict arose? ... and a splinter campaign was formed? ... Nah, it wasn't. These two philosophies can not co-exist. :p
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: CK9 on April 22, 2015, 08:56:47 AM
And upon the seventh day of the fourth month, the prophesized one appeared, bringing with him much hope.  The people rejoiced, for they had long awaited such days.  As quickly as hope had reared its head, it dimmed, for the possibility if the scripture being lost was brought to lifht.


Sorry, couldn't resist since I keep popping in so much later than everyone else :p
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Leviathan on September 20, 2015, 11:16:49 AM
Nicely done Hooman :)

Looking forward to some updates from Eddy-B!
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Eddy-B on September 24, 2015, 12:05:56 PM
Perhaps a kickstarter project would spark my interest to continue working on this?   ;D
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Vagabond on December 29, 2015, 01:11:02 AM
When I tried playing Renegades, the game also crashes at the end of the first level. It says mission accomplished, but then hangs before transitioning to the storyline/mission briefing screen.

Is there any ideas on how to bypass missions manually?

It crashed when I tried loading with Outpost 2 versions 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 on my computer on Normal difficulty.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on December 29, 2015, 03:56:12 AM
Does the debug menu work with Renegades? Try hitting "D" at the main menu, and see if you can start the next campaign mission from there.

Eddy-B, post your source code please!  :D
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: dave_erald on December 29, 2015, 08:42:01 AM
Downloaded and tried. No go, freezes end of first mission.

Also I pulled op2ext.dll and op2extra.dll out before running the installer. The installer comes with its own (OP2 will run again after installer is done, reads as OPU Version 1.3.4), freezes end of first mission.

I have not loaded the music.rar files yet. Try that next.


And no, the original debug menu 'D' function is inop.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: leeor_net on December 29, 2015, 08:58:46 PM
Wouldn't mind getting my hands on the code. Should be able to debug it and get it working.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Commander on August 14, 2016, 01:51:57 AM
Hey guys,

I bought Outpost 2 back when it was released and loved it after playing the demo as little kid. Now I recently remembered, installed and played it after coming across the site, it's still awesome after such a long time!

Literally today I discovered this community project called Renegades...about 10 years too late it seems  :(, as I'm having the same crash issue after finishing mission 1. Now I'm aware that we obviously won't see a fix for this anymore...but my question is:

Does anyone still have OP2 1.3.3 and could upload it here? Google yielded nothing, and I thought it may be worth a try to see if it may work even though the OP was unlucky with this.

Not having played the whole Renegades campaign is not an option!

Many thanks,
Commander
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on August 15, 2016, 12:04:56 AM
I don't see that particular version anywhere. It's not on the Outpost 2 download page (http://outpost2.net/gamedownload.php). It's also not tagged in the SVN repository (https://svn.outpostuniverse.org:8443/!/#outpost2/view/head/GameDownload/Outpost2/tags) (the link will show a security warning due to a bad certificate). I think that version was from before we seriously started tracking changes.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Commander on August 15, 2016, 04:12:13 AM
Thanks for summarising, unfortunately that's what I expected...the only chance would be an individual who's uploading his/her version.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on August 15, 2016, 08:52:05 AM
It's entirely possible the bug is unrelated to the version.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: leeor_net on August 15, 2016, 08:18:32 PM
This is my suspicion. Really wish I could take a look at that code.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on August 16, 2016, 06:47:50 AM
I just installed Renegades over top of the current development version from the repository and played it under Wine. There was no crash as the end of mission 1. I was able to proceed on to mission 2. I played on the easiest difficulty setting. Again though, this was under Wine, on a Linux system, not on Windows.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Vagabond on August 18, 2016, 04:03:41 PM
Hooman,

Did you save/load the mission while playing? I wonder if the crash is related to some data not being saved properly.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on August 19, 2016, 07:29:55 PM
I did not. That might be worth looking into.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Vagabond on August 27, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
I just tried playing through on Easy without saving. The game still crashed at the end for me. I used the Outpost 2 game from the repository (GameDownload) and placed the actual files at C:/Program Files/Outpost 2 Divided Destiny.

Using Windows 7 64 bit.

Not sure what is allowing it to work on wine and no where else...
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: leeor_net on August 27, 2016, 09:44:42 AM
Suspicion -- 64-Bit alignment issues. Not sure if Wine runs in 32 or 64 bit mode or if it emulates 32 or 64 bit mode.

Suspicion 2 -- Wine emulates older windows functions that current windows does not.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Sirbomber on August 27, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
As I recall, the version of OP2 we're marketing as 1.3.5 has an outdated version of the mod loader.  That might be worth investigating.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on August 28, 2016, 10:44:48 AM
Maybe we could just blame Address Space Layout Randomization again and call it a day? :P

On a more serious note, crash details will be needed to debug this. Being able to easily and reliably reproduce the crash also helps. Perhaps a saved game from just before the crash would help. Details about where Renegades was downloaded from might also be important, just in case there are different versions floating about.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Commander on September 02, 2016, 01:40:26 AM
Just tried finishing mission 1 without saving - unfortunately without avail. I'm running Windows 7 64-bit too.

I've downloaded this version of Renegades: http://newterrancommandsite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=129

I did save the game after winning mission 1 before it crashes, save file attached if that helps finding out where the error is.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on September 03, 2016, 09:02:55 PM
Downloaded. I shall now feel guilty every time I see the file and do nothing to investigate.

(That works much better than me trying to commit to an actual date to look into this).
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on September 06, 2016, 02:26:45 AM
I think SGAME10.REN is just the metadata file for the 10 saved game slots. You probably want to post a different file.
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Commander on September 10, 2016, 12:24:52 AM
Alright, here's the actual savegame. I thought because of the small file size it'd make sense als "Mission Accomplished" savegame, but in hindsight it must be one of the bigger files as the last seconds you still see the "battlefield".
Title: Re: renegades freezes on end of mission
Post by: Hooman on September 10, 2016, 10:44:03 PM
I just got "Error reading file", trying to load it. Interesting. That may be a clue. I should try it out on a VM.

Honestly though, I'm going to procrastinate on this for a bit.